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  7 0 The correct answer is that Sweden officially regards all drugs as dangerous drugs, and restricts them more severely than just about any country in Europe (or most places anywhere). This does include alcohol; while alcohol is not illegal in Sweden, it is taxed at an incredibly high rate. Booze is not illegal because (like everywhere else) it has cultural meaning in their society; marijuana and other drugs simply don't. Pot, along with all other street drugs, is totally illegal and harshly penalized, and in fact is not very much used. Sweden is simply different than us; they are a largely homogeneous, Lutheran population that is deeply committed to communitarian ideals, which work incredibly well for them; they are generally speaking extremely happy and extremely well provided-for. They decide things as a country, and everybody goes along with it. This is why their welfare society works so well, but it's also why their personal drug use is so controlled, and why this control is so widely accepted. You simply won't find large numbers of people protesting or flouting harsh pot laws, which most (not all) Swedes agree with. Sweden experimented with drug liberalization in the 60s and 70s, like most places in Europe, and had what they considered to be some bad results. A drug scene like Amsterdam, with open pot bars, but also hordes of heroin addicts filling the main squares, is just not something that the reserved Swedes would ever be comfortable with. In a country like Sweden, this kind of national decision works; they decided to say "no", and pretty much everyone went along with it. It's very different to the US's culture of draconian laws that no one pays any attention to until they get busted; Swedes aren't scofflaws. Fnarf answered in 420: The Straight Dope About Pot over 2 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question New comments are not being accepted at this time.

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  2 0 This is what I have been told by my handful of Swedish friends: Swedes are, in general, afraid of pot along with other drugs. The government and society have effectively clumped it into a category with all drugs and the people's general belief is that pot is bad for you and scaaaary. This is pretty much what my Swedish friends think themselves and say about their society. It ain't the most technical answer out there but deal with it. James answered in 420: The Straight Dope About Pot over 2 years ago | Report 2 comments by Rev.Enant and CrazyCatLady… 0 0 reefer madness!! Rev.Enant commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Well it looks like I have allowed my taste for old Volvos, pickled fish, and Erik the Vampire to color my impressions of an entire country. CrazyCatLady commented over 2 years ago | Report Enter your comment or ask a new question New comments are not being accepted at this time.

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  1 8 The Swedish government is very repressive of all sorts of things. I know some libertarians there. They have a bar that has to operate as a private club to get around some of the strict rules. They have posters of Austrian economists and discuss issues. Swedes take a cheap ferry to Estonia (formerly in the USSR), and bring back lots of low-price and low-tax booze. Swedish government is also very draconian on cannabis. Malmo is connected by long bridge with Copenhagen. Many Muslims live in Malmo. Rapes, robberies, and harassment of infidels, particularly Jews, is on the rise. The new immigrants tend to draw welfare and listen via satellite TV to channels from their land of origin. The Christian conservatives in Sweden are trying for a type of coalition, as are the socialists. I think many of the best Swedes have left for other parts of Scandinavia. Kevin answered in 420: The Straight Dope About Pot over 2 years ago | Report 32 comments by elenchos, Fnarf, and Kevin… 0 0 Wow. Those Muslims are rapey, aren't they? elenchos commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 What the hell? What do "Muslims on welfare" have to do with Swedish pot laws? "Many of the best Swedes"? "A type of coalition"? This kind of racist paranoid Ron Paul claptrap doesn't belong here. Fnarf commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 A marijuana smuggler was beheaded in Saudi Arabia: http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-backroom/98224/posts "This conservative country follows a strict interpretation of Islam under which people convicted of drug trafficking, murder, rape and armed robbery are executed. Beheadings are carried out with a sword in public" Sweden is a Lutheran country and this is a reason for their draconian laws. Though not as draconian as in much of dar al-Islam. Social conservatives of the Christian and Islamic variety are finding they have some things in common. Ron Paul might have used racism to raise funds, though his foreign policy is non-interventionist. I don't like Ron Paul, except for much of his domestic policy, which is very much in favor of pot freedom, at least compared to other congressmen. Kevin commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Anyone who describes Swedes as "social conservatives" can safely be ignored on all topics. Anyone who conflates Saudi Wahhabism with all Muslims is simply ignoring the facts in favor of their own weak understanding. Hint: how many of the Muslims in Sweden are from Saudi Arabia? You still have made zero connection between "Muslims on welfare" and Swedish pot laws. Are these Muslims integrated into Swedish society? No? Then how do they somehow then represent it? Your characterization of Muslims in Sweden is racist, full stop. Your characterization of Swedes is out to lunch. I don't care how many posters of Austrian economists they have. The fact is that drug liberalization is not compatible with ALL TYPES of liberal societies. Sweden is proof of that. I'm sorry if the complexity of the world is confusing to you. Fnarf commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Sweden is socially conservative where drugs are concerned. Sweden is not a very Liberal society, defining that term in the European sense. In America, there is another sense of the term "liberal"; so to distinguish the two terms one is called "classical liberal" and the other, "modern liberal". Though I'm not sure what difference that makes for this topic, since both modern and classical liberalism tend to favor liberalization of drug laws. Saudi Arabia is a major funding source for Wahhabism world-wide. Which is why I mentioned Saudi Arabia. But one could look at just about any Islamic-ruled country and find drug laws that are more draconian than here. Would you like to go through the list? If you read "Midnight Express" you might learn something. In Afghanistan, poppy cultivation is a major source of funding for Taliban and Al Qaeda. So an exception is made because of the practical benefits to jihad (dualistic ethics). Those growing free-lance and not paying off the proper syndicates, will find very harsh punishment. Like a bullet to the back of the head. Kevin commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 PS--Islam is not a race, but a religion. Christianity can also be a problem, though not usually as severe. Christianity has moderated through centuries of assimilation with humanism. The Moral Majority has been a major force behind the anti-drugs war. Though that war seems to be subsiding thanks to liberal reform. The original edition of Jack Herer's book, The Emperor Wears No Clothes, has an interesting chapter on the relation of drugs to religion. Consumption of psychedelic mushrooms can simulate an NDE (near death experience). Annointing oil might have contained cannabis; and the burning bush... Kevin commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Jesus Christ, man, you don't give up. Sweden is quite possibly the most socially liberal country in the world, JUST NOT FOR DRUGS. You don't know what you're talking about. Why you continue to drag Islam into the conversation is less of a mystery. You're a racist. You need to inject your feelings about Muslims into any discussion no matter how remote. Got it. Here's a clue: the status of drug laws in various Islamic countries has NOTHING WHATEVER to do with why drugs are disfavored in Sweden. Which is the topic at hand. You're doing a great job of advertising the dimming effects of marijuana use on people. I don't know if that's the effect you were after. But if the world doesn't agree with your thinking, maybe there's something wrong with your thinking. Fnarf commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Potheads really are the reason we didn't legalize pot years ago. elenchos commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 The stereotype, it is strong here, isn't it? Someone's having trouble following a line of thought. So tell me, Kevin, what do draconian drug laws in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, or Turkey have to do with drug laws in Sweden? What do the drug laws in Sweden have to do with these welfare Muslim rapist layabouts you're so concerned about? If the answer to the above questions is "nothing" (hint: the answer to the above questions is "nothing"), then why did you bring it up? Is it your thesis that Sweden would have liberalized its drug laws long ago, except for the fact that all the "good Swedes" left the country in horror at all the rapist Muslims on welfare laying about everywhere, and the only Swedes left are religious extremists? Because that theory has some problems. Fnarf commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 There is no reason to invoke a deity or make personal insults. I brought up Islam in it's relation to social conservatism in Sweden. You keep revisiting one aspect, and I respond. I don't see how political incorrectness on this one topic, hinders legalization of pot. To the contrary, most potheads are naive about the dangers this country faces, simply because they automatically take a position contrary to anything remotely connected with activities of the federal government. Most Americans don't smoke pot and are pro-military, so we have to find a way of addressing their concerns. Prohibition is a prime example of how social conservatism subsidizes terrorism, both on the part of government enforcers and also in subsidizing gangs such as in Afghanistan. I didn't say that Sweden was socially conservative in all areas of personal life. My focus was on drugs and alcohol and how Christian and Islamic social conservatives are finding common cause--both dislike alcohol and drugs and want government to enforce their views. But if you want to talk about other areas where Sweden is socially conservative, fine. Prostitution in Sweden has plummeted 40% in the last 12 years, due to their crackdown on customers: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-03-16-sweden-prostitution_N.htm Kevin commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 It might be fun to lock Kevin and Will in Seattle in a room together. Mahtli69 commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 "Fnarf": a similar thing is happening in Holland No new licenses are issued for coffeehouses, whose numbers are gradually dwindling. Some near the border have been shut down for high volumes. Over a third of the red light district has been shut down. The Dutch government is forcing them out, and substituting with subsidized boutiques. New arrivals to europe tend to bring with them values from their homeland and do not readily assimilate. They tend to vote socially conservative. In America, ironically, many Muslims supported the GOP because of it's social conservatism. This flirtation with the GOP has dwindled since 9/11, but the social conservatism remains. Native Dutch are also voting more conservative, thinking they are affirming native culture over immigrant culture, while in reality the opposite has happened. Even Geert Wilders has called for tighter regulation of the "coffeehouses". Kevin commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Mahtli69 said: "It might be fun to lock Kevin and Will in Seattle in a room together." As it happens, I know a "Will" who lives in Seattle. He's a good friend of mine. I've seen "Will in Seattle" posts in the Seattle Times, and wondered if the two were one and the same person. I think the Will I know would tend to agree with me on this thread, but he has not posted here. From the context of your comment, I take it, you do not think he would? Kevin commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Whether you'd agree or disagree is irrelevant. I'd be more interested to see if you could follow each others' logic. Mahtli69 commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 I think the relevant drug in this discussion is not pot but crack, as in, you've been smoking it. Sweden's tough drug laws have been in place unchanged for thirty years, long before your rapey Muslims showed up. When a person answers the question "why no pot in Sweden?" with "it's because of criminal Muslims who sit around on welfare and rape and rob infidels", that is a racist answer. In Sweden, Islam is a race as well as a religion. The fact that you were unable to come up with even a glimmer of an actual reason, but went instead directly to "criminal dark-skinned immigrants" is part of an explicitly racist line of thought that has taken hold of ultra-right-wing observers in some European countries. Guys with, you know, "posters of Austrian economists" on their walls. Speaking of 4/20 and birthdays and all. Putting Bruce Bawer's books in the hands of potheads is probably a bad idea. Even if it's not, attributing Sweden's social cohesion to rapist darkies is stupid and insane. Tell Will I said hi. Fnarf commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 This shit is funny. James commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 the 'best' swedes? Oh my... and here Sweden's busy trying to get RID of the image of anti-semitism... Or.. Perhaps you're thinking of Max Von Sydow and DOLPH LUNDGREN? and "Sweden is not a very Liberal society," - broad sweeping statement = invitiation to broad sweeping interpretation. ..? we're talking about the same country that has what we might consider underage drinking and statutory rape as legal?? Skåne that you mention, btw, is very liberal: it houses university students from all over the EU as well the UN's WMU. 3 of the 5 online gamers I've met from Malmö are potheads and are thankfully much more reasonable and less bigoted. Rev.Enant commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Islam is not a race. Some people have been born to Muslim parents, and left the religion (risking a death penalty per Sharia law). Ask Hirsi Ali, who has 24/7 security guards after receiving death threats from the gang that assassinated Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh for his film critical of Islam. I didn't lay all the blame for Sweden's illegal drug laws on Muslims. Swedish society was already socially conservative on this issue; the recent immigrants reinforce this and make reform more difficult. Now let's do a thought experiment. Imagine instead social conservatives immigrating to Sweden, that social liberals were immigrating. Don't you think that Sweden's pot laws would by now be more liberal? This isn't rocket science, it's time to get off the high horse and consider what other people are saying, people with a different viewpoint than the narrow circle of your friends. I'd never heard of "Bruce Bawer", but thanks to Fnarf, now I have. I read dozens of articles each day, and scan 200-300, many from a co-founder of the CIA's anti-terrorism center. I've never taken crack cocaine, or any kind of cocaine or similar harsh drug. I also like gaming, but wouldn't rely on a handful of gamers for my sole source of information on this topic. The information is readily available, I can lead you to the internet but can't make you think. Kevin commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 So when the Muslims in Sweden are not busy raping and robbing their neighbors, or spreading antisemitism, they are working closely with Swedish conservatives to keep the drug laws as retrograde as ever? They're sort of integrated with the Swedish Right, but alienated from the Swedish non-rapist, non-robber, non-antisemite community? It's like a dual role they play in that culture. Oh me, oh my, what a lot of funny things go by. Some are sad. Some are bad. Some are very, very bad. Don't ask me why, go ask your dad. elenchos commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 All of the Muslims in Sweden are immigrants or descendants of immigrants from places whose peoples are visibly not Swedish. They are also, shockingly, not all welfare layabouts, rapists, or murderers. By continuing to harp on that stereotype you are, in fact, PERPETUATING RACISM. Your understanding of Islam, in Sweden and elsewhere, is extraordinarily limited and prejudicial. Basically, you know nothing, except what you've heard from a handful of sensationalist news reports, at least some of which appears to be copied verbatim from right-wing hate sites like "Jihad Watch" (one of Michelle Malkin's favorites). Islam, despite the 300 articles you, uh, scan each day, is a vast, varied historical and cultural phenomenon. Hirsi Ali (who lives in Holland, not Sweden) faces no threat from the many Bosnian Muslims in Sweden, for instance. But that's neither here nor there. The question wasn't "are Muslim rapists running riot in Dear Old Svenska?", it was "why no pot in Sweden"? The answer has nothing to do with Muslims. The "narrow circle of your friends" comment is pretty rich coming from a guy who can't see beyond the fringes of his cloud of pot smoke. You know nothing about Sweden, and you know less than nothing about Muslims. If you will read my answer to the original poster's question, you will see concepts that are unfamiliar to you: nuance and awareness of cultural differences chief among them. Stick to the hydroponics, doper. You're out of your depth here. I don't care how many articles of bullshit you scan every day. Fnarf commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 I was going to mention that, Elenchos. These pesky Muslims are the Right's arch-enemy, but they work together to lock in those marijuana laws. Fascinating how conspiratorial minds work. Maybe it's all that near-death experience. Fnarf commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 *optimistically* Perhaps by "rapes" Kevin meant Skåne's booming rape (rapeseed) industry ...? Rev.Enant commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Contrary to what has been arrogantly claimed, the drug laws in Sweden have changed in the past 30 years. Things were fairly liberal in the sixties, until 1968. Things have gotten mostly worse since then. I copy/paste an article which outlines the changes: http://en.wikipedia.or/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Sweden In the 80's and 90's, lawmakers continued to make smaller modifications of the drug laws, expanding their coverage, increasing maximum sentences, altering early release rules, and introducing treatment options as an alternate to imprisonment to be used at the court's discretion. In 1980 came another step in the gradually tighter practice for withdrawal of the prosecution for smaller drug crimes. Contract treatment for drug abuse was introduced as an alternative to imprisonment was implemented in the law. Contract treatment is a possible consequence of a clearly drug related crime, a possible option for any Swedish court; the option is not limited to special Drug courts. If the person misbehaves, the sentence can be transformed into a prison sentence.[22][23]. 1981 Imprisonment in the ordinary course of crimes increased from max. 2 to the max. 3 years. Imprisonment at the serious crime increased from minimum 1 to minimum 2 years. In 1982 came the Misuser Act (LVM), which made possible for municipalities to place very serious drug dependent in mandatory treatment with restrictions for a number of months. The same type of law had earlier only been used for very serious alcoholics. Mandatory treatment according to this law has since 1982 been used for a number of hundred people per year; in 2007 was it 330 with serious drug problems and 219 with both alcohol and drug problems.[24] In 1988, all use of drugs, even in very small quantities, became a criminal offense, punishable with fine, under The Narcotic Drugs Penalty Code of 1968. In the same year, a special form of probation, contract treatment, became available as an alternative to imprisonment in cases of alcohol or drug related crime. This treatment was available only to offenders willing to undergo the drug or alcohol treatment as decided by the courts.[25] In 1993, the maximum sentence for illicit use of drugs was raised to 6 months in prison though the normal punishment remained a fine. The reason for raising the maximum penalty for drug use to 6 months' imprisonment was to make it legal for police to conduct a body search. Such may, in accordance with Swedish law, only be implemented if someone is suspected of a crime carrying at least 6 months' imprisonment as the maximum punishment. In the same year the law was amended to allow for early release of all prisoners, not only those convicted of drug crimes. Between 1983 and 1993, in principle, prisoners were released after serving half the time. For those who were convicted after July 1, 1993, the rule became a 2/3 term imprisonment. After 1999, the early release became conditional. 1995 Jan 1. Sweden becomes a member of the EU. One effect of EU's rules is a radical reduced control of illicit drugs at the borders. The Swedish customs authority stop making random controls on the traffic and passengers upon entering from EU countries; the number of employees in the Swedish customs authority is reduced.[citation needed] Surveys of illicit drug use last month show an almost doubled drug use among 16-year-old boys (from 5% to 10%, most cannabis) in year 2000. The level had previously been low and essentially stable since 1983 (below 5% last month for boys and 2% for girls).[21][26] 2000-2001 Professor Johannes Knutsson, Oslo concludes after a study of drug use and drug policy in Sweden that the "stricter enforcement contributed to Sweden by international standards has a lower percentage of young people who tried drugs."[3][27] Kevin commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Two trends are at work in Europe, one native the other Muslim immigrant. In many cases, native Europeans, including Swedes, are reacting against Muslim immigration by voting conservative. This has a side effect of more socially conservative laws and policies in relation to pot. The native social conservatives aren't necessarily conspiring with the immigrant social conservatives, even though they tend to agree on that one issue. The result is unintended, in the sense that the native europeans who voted in the conservatives, weren't necessarily intending to make pot laws more conservative. By a quirk of history, those politicians most hostile to Muslim immigration tend to be also the most socially conservative. Also, as Muslim voters become more numerous in Sweden, we may expect Swedish pot laws to become more like those of Turkey (the country of origin of most Muslims in Sweden). In Sweden, I think the positive correlation between the trend toward social conservatism in drug laws, on the one hand, and increased numbers of Muslims (who tend to be socially conservative), is instructive. But as I have said, that is the result of voting patterns of both natives and immigrants (and the two interact). You are free to disagree, and believe that Muslims really tend to be socially liberal and not socially conservative, and are not causing a conservative counter-reaction in Europe. The chances of both being true are approximately zero. This is not about race. This is about culture. Religion is not genetically determined, and to suppose otherwise is sheer ignorance. To equate resistance to Sharia law with racism, is to rule out criticism of sharia law. Be careful what you wish for, you may get it, and be hoisted on your own petard. We cannot automatically assume that all cultures are equal in terms of their liberalism. That would fly in the face of overwhelming evidence. For instance, a tourist was imprisoned for four years in Dubai, for a speck of pot stuck on the bottom of his show. That is not due to the genetics of Dubaians, but because of their sharia law. Kevin commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Dear dipshit: it is a truism amongst right-wing dipsticks both in Europe and here that Muslim immigrants are taking over and shitting all over our freedoms, yadda yadda yadda. People with brains, on the other hand, are capable of making distinctions between fucking Dubai and Sweden. SWEDEN! I ask you. Sweden, despite your idiotic fears, is not at risk of adopting Sharia anytime soon, with a couple of hundred thousand Muslims out of nine million people. Most of those Muslims have nothing to do with Sharia anyways. But you still keep to your stereotypes. You're doing a terrific job of reinforcing one of your own, that of the boob who's reduced his brain to the consistency of molasses through overuse of the kind herb. You're completely wrong about Swedish Muslims, by the way; they're not "most Muslims in Sweden". The most numerous groups of Swedish Muslims are Iraqi, Irani, former Yugoslavs, Somalis, Moroccans -- all sorts. Imagine that. But your obsession with Turks, which is widespread amongst explicitly racist creeps in France, Germany, and Holland, IS ITSELF RACIST. I'm done here; arguing with you is like arguing with mud. Your understanding of what's going on in Europe, whether you know it or not, is wholly right-wing and racist and most importantly STUPID AS FUCK. Fnarf commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Many come from Turkey, others come from Lebanon, Palaestina, Bosnia, Iraq, Iran, or Syria. The point is, almost all are Muslims, who bring with them the cultural values of their country of origin and who resist assimilation to the host country. Some are Persians, some Turks, and not all are Arabs. So this is not about ethnicity. In fact, many are descendants of pagans or Jews who survived the cultural cleansing of Jihadist conquest, only by "converting" to Islam. The political values of these countries of origin tend to not favor personal freedom, such as liberal pot laws. This is apparent by an examination of examples of Islamic governments; this question cannot be decided axiomatically. Since they tend to not assimilate well, why do you assume they have adopted liberal values? I also oppose Sweden's state Lutheran church; most members of said church are ethnically Scandinavian. Does that make me an anti-Scandinavian racist? The Lutherans are at least equally at fault for illiberal pot laws, but could be influenced in the other direction under a different set of circumstances. The gutter language and swearwords you frequently employ, in a personal manner to those who dare dissent from your pontifications, do not speak well of your temperament and do not contribute to the believability of your claims. You may wish to believe in multi-culturalism, that all cultures have equal validity. Yet not all cultures are equally receptive to liberalism in pot laws. Your assumption is "a priori", that is, prior to factual evidence. Here are some facts: http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/Fjordman50506.htm The increased levels of violent crime, coming disproportionately from Muslim immigrants, are causing a backlash among native Swedes. They tend to react by voting more conservative, and this adversely affects the pot laws. By denying the reality of the new crime levels, you play into the hands of conservatives who do not believe your denial. It's better to acknowledge the concerns of native europeans, but re-direct them in a different political direction. Kevin commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Pot makes me paranoid too. It's why I haven't touched the stuff in years. elenchos commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Hey, great website. Chock full of facts. Like the "fact" that Obama is a mentally unstable Fuehrer in the making: http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html Have you signed the petition yet? Irena commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Dude, it's worse than you thought. There are EPISCOPALIANS RIGHT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD! They're probably peeping in your windows right this minute. And you know, you've been hearing about all these sex abuse scandals with the Pope and everything. Can't be too safe. I think you should run out and set fire to some immigrants right now. Fnarf commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Sorry, Kevin, but this is alarmist BS. Swedish Muslims make up only 5% of the population; only small modifications have been made to their drug laws since 1980, which were tough long before that piddling number of Muslims showed up; your assertion that Muslim immigrants are the sole cause of Swedes voting conservative is outlandish and an obvious case of scapegoating; and your concern that Sweden is going to adopt Sharia law to combat drugs is ridiculous considering that Sweden is ranked #1 in the Economist's Democracy Index. Your sources are racist wingnuts, your "facts" are skewed, and your paranoid view of politics is repulsive. You have zero credibility. Stop drawing baseless conclusions that boil complex issues down to one cause. Stop telling us what "we can expect" when you have no credible evidence to back it up. And stop reading those garbage websites. They're messing with your head. Irena commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Violent criminals are only a small % of any population, but cause great harm and fear. I've been the victim of several armed robberies, and knowing my robbers are a small % does not make me feel better. When others hear about the violence, this causes terror among the general population. I didn't say Islam was the only problem. If 95% of the population are state Lutherans, that is also a problem. Maybe even a greater problem, but at least the problem was stable. Individual Lutherans tend to be not as bad, but because they are more numerous their cumulative harm is great. I haven't heard of any secular persons who favor the anti-drugs war. Probably because of lack of reason for prohibition. Although I suppose if you consider communism to be secular that would be an exception. We cannot safely ignore the ideological underpinnings of the anti-drugs war. You can repeat "racism" like a mantra if that is your faith. But you have provided no evidence for your smear. 5% may not sound like much, but the Green Party got only 5.9% in the last election. The conservative "Moderate" party (formerly the "right-wing party") got their highest total since 1928 (26.2%). Although 5% is significant by itself, the effect is multiplied by the reactions of native Swedes. In the US also, people tend to vote more conservative ("law and order") in reaction to violent crime. That's how Nixon got so popular. Much of armed robbery is caused by prohibition, which raises prices to windfall levels. So any increases in social conservatism among the natives or due to immigration, adds to pressure for more strict prohibition, which in turn increases violent crime, leading to a self-accelerating cycle. So although strict prohibition in Sweden has reduced drug consumption in some years, the minority who remain are more hardcore and alienated from the general society. When outsiders come into such a homogenous society as Sweden, their disproportionate contribution to violent crime makes the natives restless. Changes in such a stable society as Sweden tend to be incremental. But the trend is incrementally toward harshness, and coincides with incremental increases in the Muslim population. Kevin commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 I don't need to provide evidence for your racism. You have provided plenty. Take another look at that website you dig so much. It's a goddamn white power wonderland over there. When white European nationalists like your friends get agitated about Muslims, they are upset about ARABS AND TURKS. That is RACE. Your deeply confused and stupid imaginings about how Islam works, which have absolutely nothing to do with the truth, exist only to obscure the real reason behind your fear: fear of dark immigrants. It's the same shit you see in France, in Germany, in Holland, in Austria, in "Londonistan" (yeah, right), in all the parts of Europe where a formerly all-white society (aside from a few Jews or Gypsies who have survived the ethnic cleansings) has to deal for the first time with darker immigrants. Dipshits like you with access to the internet and a very dim bulb to read it by have created an entire fantasy world where Europe is being "overrun" by wild-eyed Moozlims who are all building bombs in their tower block toilets. You think you've discovered something, something secret and scary, but those of us who are NOT paralytic on the floor with powerful dope recognize it straight off: xenophobia, racism, white nationalism, whatever you want to call it. But it's ALL BULLSHIT. You know who's a real threat to Sweden? Serbs. A Serb shot and killed Anna Lindh, who was probably going to be their next PM. She was a liberal and a friend to immigrants, including Muslim immigrants. The Serb who shot her wasn't a Muslim. When Yugoslavia fell apart, Slobodan Milosevic built a criminal state in Serbia, one in which the government was completely run by organized crime. Young Serbs have never lived in a state that wasn't wholly criminal in nature, and in the aftermath of the wars in Bosnia and Kosovo, Europe is being flooded with violent Serbian criminals. They're a million times more threatening than the Muslims. Why aren't you up in arms about them? Why aren't you answering harmless questions about "why no pot in Sweden?" with stories about murderous Serbs and their violent gangs? I'll tell you why. Because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. And your natural impulses -- paranoia, conspiracy theory, pot-smoke clouds of interconnected dorm room bullshit, kook libertarianism -- are the perfect rooting medium for the new European right wing. There isn't a thing you've said here that couldn't have come out of the mouth of Jean-Marie Le Pen or Joerg Haider (no doubt your favorite "Austrian economist"), or Michelle Malkin for that matter. We've heard it before. You should visit Malmo in August sometime. It's lovely. Then head on down to the seaside. I promise, you won't be subjected to Sharia hardly at all. Fnarf commented over 2 years ago | Report Enter your comment or ask a new question New comments are not being accepted at this time.

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