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  0 0 I can only answer for the Croc but i know the answer is YES. The original soundstystem that was installed at the renovated Crocodile was much much too powerful for a room of this size. Within a week or two of reopening we had trimmed the entire system in half. At this point the Crocodile has a completely different system than the one we opened with. The speakers are all digital which provides max clarity with minimal output. Nobody, from show-goers to staff members, wants to be in a noisy room all night. Eli Anderson answered in Music Panel over 2 years ago | Report 6 comments by Phil M, Eli Anderson, and Phil M… 0 0 Could you explain what you meant by "all digital" in reference to your speakers? As the drivers themselves must be analog, I'm guessing you meant that the D/A conversion happens inside the speaker enclosures, keeping the analog path, which is most susceptible to interference, as short as feasible. That explains "max clarity" but not "minimal output". What's the "with minimal output" part? With traditional passive speakers, turning up the volume would, I think, increase the noise along with the signal, not provide any additional clarity. Phil M commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 The speakers (as well as the amps and the board) are all digital. So the sound is taken from its analog source and converted to a digital signal. There is no digital to analog re-conversion at all until the sound hits your ears. I believe we are the only club in town with this type of set up. The clarity of the new speakers allows the sound person to keep the overall PA volume down but still be able to properly voice all the instruments. Its a pretty noticeable upgrade from the old system. Eli Anderson commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Hmm... I'm no sound engineer, but I have a basic understanding of how electricity and sound work. Sound itself is analog. The movement of a cone to produce sound waves is an analog process. And I don't know what it would mean to amplify a digital signal: it's just 1's and 0's. So if you do A/D at the source, then send a digital stream across the room, you're still going to have to go D/A, then to amplify the weak analog signal so it can power some electromagnets that move the cones. Does this stuff have a name? You've piqued my curiosity in the state of the art. Phil M commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 I found these suggestions for clubs on hearnet.com: - PROVIDING chill out rooms with quieter music is really important. Chill out rooms allow patrons to take breaks which are an essential way to help prevent hearing loss. - LIFTING speakers off the ground. When you put speakers on the ground, you lose 8 decibels of the low frequency sound. DJs often adjust their sound levels to compensate for this loss. Lifting speakers helps in two ways: it prevents patrons from getting too close to speakers, and it prevents this distortion that causes DJs to increase sound levels unnecessarily. - DJs should keep down midrange frequencies. This helps lower risks of hearing loss, as well as allowing patrons to hear each other talk so they don't have to shout (which increases noise in the club, which causes the DJ to turn the sound up, etc.). NaFun commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 @Phil M I'd have to ask our sound guys for a more detailed answer to your questions about the cones and the like. I only got the really dumbed down version that i provided here...:) But, suffice to say, our sound people as well as Carlson audio were beyond stoked about these new speakers. Like I said it is a BIG step up in terms of quality of sound in the room Eli Anderson commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Phil, based on the equipment list on the Croc's site, the final D/A conversion happens inside the D&B Audiotechnik power amps used for FOH, which have both digital and analog inputs. That particular Yamaha digital board is pretty stinkin' badass, too. As are those EAW wedges and QSC amps for the monitor setup. I have to admit I haven't been since the relaunch of the Croc, but that's arguably the most high-end system in a venue of its size in town. chrisrnps commented over 2 years ago | Report Enter your comment or ask a new question New comments are not being accepted at this time.

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  0 0 It seems like most clubs do have foam plugs available, but I think it's also good as an audience member to be responsible for your own health as well. Seattle is a jet engine town with a history of loving loud tunes. People just seem to like it louder here than they do in some other towns. It's not just club owners and sound people. I've seen the audience complain when they think it is too quiet. But I digress.... Loud, live music is a recreational drug. You don't just hear it. You feel it on your body, and many people enjoy this sensation. Like alcohol, coffee, sugar, etc., it can be a lot of fun, but it also must be consumed responsibly, or it can damage your body. I know I am a bit of a freak on this point, and I know that most people don't see live music as much as I do, but I always carry ear protection in my pocket, because I never want to be without it. You just never know when you will spontaneously decide on the fly to go out to a live show. Earplugs take up so little room in your pocket or purse. Why not plan for maximum comfort and enjoyment, rather than leaving the fate of your hearing in the hands of a third party? When I started dating my sweetie a few years ago, she thought I was crazy on the earplugs things. But after attending a few loud shows with me where she forgot to bring plugs, she saw the light. Now she always has plugs in her purse. If you are serious about going to live shows, I suggest you get yourself some Etymotic Research ER-20 plugs . They make the sound quieter, but they do a better job of maintaining high frequency fidelity than do the foam plugs. They are well worth the $12-$15 you will pay for them. Look them up on-line to see what they look like. Then either order some on-line or go to Guitar Center and buy some there, where they are sold under the Hearo's brand name . Jake London answered in Music Panel over 2 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question New comments are not being accepted at this time.

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  0 0 i dunno about that, but i feel a lot of places supply earplugs. el corazon charges for them, the funhouse gives them out for free, you just need to ask. as for speakers and such, i am not so sure, but i feel like they don't keep that in mind, considering the high levels most places have their music set at, they're not concerned about hearing protection or loss. PalladiumFox answered in Music Panel over 2 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question New comments are not being accepted at this time.

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