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  4 0 I would love to see this. I've gotten burned before for thinking the stated time is an hour or two earlier than the opening band actually starts. In once case, the opening band who I wanted to see actually started at the printed time. There's no way I want to sit around for an hour or two if I don't need to. I know bars want people to drink, but there's only so much you can drink (before having to constantly rush to the bathroom when the band you're there to see is performing). As for legal issues, they can post to their own website and have a big "this may change" warning on the info. emily answered in Music Panel over 2 years ago | Report 1 comment by SeattleSlew… 0 0 Absolutely! The alluded-to legal ramifications are NOT an issue if proper language is included. Really how hard is it to note accurate starting times? Puhleeese! SeattleSlew commented over 2 years ago | Report Enter your comment or ask a new question New comments are not being accepted at this time.

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  1 0 Venues make a lot, or even most of their money off of alcohol sales. It's in their interest to get you sitting around with nothing to do except drink, so there's little incentive to run things on as tight a schedule as say, a movie theatre. tiktok answered in Music Panel over 2 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question New comments are not being accepted at this time.

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  2 2 Publishing set times leaves you open to all sorts of ticket refund complaints. Once you say something is going to happen at a certain time and publish it you are liable to make those things happen at those times. And pretty much every show ever is going to fall a little bit behind. Most every weeknight show attempts to run on the same schedule. And weekends are just a little bit different. Eli Anderson answered in Music Panel over 2 years ago | Report 6 comments by Phil M, Eli Anderson, and Phil M… 0 0 Are you saying you would have a legal obligation in that case, or simply an ethical one? Phil M commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 I could see it being a legal one. By printing set times on tickets you are setting a weird precedent of making yourself liable for things that can't always be controlled. The way we run things now we can just be "hey doors will open at 8 and these bands will play" and not be held responsible for any bumps in the production schedule. Unless of course someone just flat out cancels. Eli Anderson commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Hmm... could see or do see? Your earlier statement sounded more confident. Regardless, not specifying a time is good for you, but not for customers. To avoid having to pay up if someone just flat out cancels, why not just leave the date off, and say, "hey, doors will be open today, and the bands will play someday"? I'm really curious if there's any legal/monetary risk here, or if it's simply a convention that venues have adopted to avoid having to explain when they are unable to effectively schedule and orchestrate a performance. Phil M commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 It's the inconsistency that's driving us crazy. And I think the people most annoyed are your most frequent customers! A time is already on the ticket but is meaningless. Nobody needs a hardline commitment but just tweeting out if it's a midnight curfew or 2 Am curfew would be helpful. STG had an ad for a show in the Stranger today that had the following included: Doors at 7 - curfew at 11. That is great info that isn't specific. Giving us that kind of info online as late as the day of the show would be lovely. booberry commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 We've still yet to hear what liability is created by telling potential customers what time a performance is supposed to begin. Complaints? Of course. When you sell a ticket to an event, then start early, causing on-time customers to miss it, or late, causing customers to stand around waiting, people are likely to complain. I think the preferred solution would be to tighten up your ship, not to just do away with schedules. This issue cannot be unique to musical performances. As for "pretty much every show ever is going to fall a little bit behind," I suspect that would not be the case if someone was made accountable for not staying on schedule. Of course things are going to run behind if there's no consequence for failure (or pride in success). So Eli, you spoke of obligations and liability, but when asked for details, you didn't provide any. Can you back any of that with anything concrete? Phil M commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 The idea that there is "zero accountability" is really bogus. It's fair to say that its lose-lose. People complain about how it is now and people would complain about it if a listed time wasn't actually the time a band played. And it's not just a small-club issue. You can't call key arena and be guaranteed that Michael Buble will go on at 9. There's an element of guesswork and there always will be. Trying to set that in stone doesn't put a stop to that. Eli Anderson commented over 2 years ago | Report Enter your comment or ask a new question New comments are not being accepted at this time.

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  0 0 Perhaps they're trying to avoid needing to have Cab Calloway as a backup for when the front men run out of gas and the crowd gets restive. CleverScreenName answered in Music Panel over 2 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question New comments are not being accepted at this time.

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  0 0 I'm not in any way involved in the music business, but I'll take a swing at answering this question anyway. Answer: They can do so, but choose not to because 1) publishing and adhering to a schedule is more work then just saying, "we'll open at 8:00, and the bands will play sometime after that," then leaving customers guessing, and 2) people still choose to do business with Crocodile, Neumos, and Chop Suey, despite the lack of information you cited. Phil M answered in Music Panel over 2 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question New comments are not being accepted at this time.

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