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Is there a safe way to listen to music while biking?

Headphones seem unsafe; I need my ears to tell me if a car is coming up behind me, and how fast. But it would be so fun to have some tunes. Has anybody found a solution that works?

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  • 11443802614723fe566385e_small
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    Assuming you have a compatible iPod, this: http://www.amazon.com/iHome-iH85B-Beach-Speaker-System/dp/B000OCRCKA/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

    I've ridden with people who had this and it's surprisingly loud.

    I'm in the "it's never safe to ride with with earbuds" school. Even one reduces your situational awareness too much. Modern plastic-y cars already hardly make any noise when the door opens in front of you.

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  • Madmen_small
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    Headphones on a bike just seems all-around dangerous. I would recommend singing to yourself, out loud. :)

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  • Gold-head_small
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    Rock it old style. Bungee a big ol' boom box to your handlebars and dig out those old mix tapes.

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  • Davidhiller2_sm_small
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    Headphones aren't just unsafe, they're illegal.

    At a minumum, pull the earbud out of your left ear to leave your traffic-side ear open. Some people find the difference in their stereo hearing to be disorienting, so don't ride around traffic until you're sure you can hear overtaking cars or bikes.

    There are some bike mounted solutions, but they look fairly clunky and I wouldn't recommend them.

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  • Sacri_ordines_by_charism_small
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    If you must have music while riding...
    Strap a portable stereo/ipod dock with speaker on your bike or backpack. Or get someone to run alongside you playing 'Eye of the Tiger' on a boombox.

    Never put earbuds in while biking, no matter how quiet you play it / good you are at hearing out of one ear. Plugging that ear canal with anything amplifies your 'internal sounds' -like breathing hard- and creates more deficiencies to your hearing than just having to "hear over" the music. Might as well ride with a pirate patch on one eye, for how much of your natural defenses you'd be pissing into the wind.

    'Grain o salt' fine print: This advice assumes you're talking about riding on Seattle's streets during daylight, and not graveyard, hours.
    Trail riding, velodrome / closed tracks and races are an entirely different situation.

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    Many cars today are nearly silent. Don't assume that being able to hear means you can hear the car next to you. I like riding with headphones because it forces me out of this assumption.

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  • Img_3380_small
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    There are actually iPod docks with speakers made to fit on your handlebars... I'm having a hard time finding the actual product that I've seen in the past- but here's a good lead: http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/reviews/entry/cy-fi-wireless-sports-speaker-for-ipod/

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    The headphones around the neck option works fairly well, if you have to have music. I'm talking about the DJ/monitor style bulky ones. That way both your ears are free to hear any variables headed your way. After all, sometimes the most important sound is the faint hum of a parked car signifying that it is on and the driver finishing a text is about to pull out right in front of you without looking. There's no way you would hear that with even one earbud in.

    But really, I enjoy the sounds of the streets and the birds and randomly overhearing people on the sidewalk. I like talking to other bikers and feeling completely present in the experience of riding. I can't say I understand why anyone would want to ride with headphones on, but different strokes, of course.

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  • 1047307219_096985d990_small
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    I know at least a handful of other riders, including myself, who ride full headphones. The guy in the hat nailed it. It depends on your experience, your knowledge of the dangers of the route, and your ability to adapt to potentially dangerous situations. Like the Rev, above, most people assume a general danger from the lack of an available sense that simply doesn't exist in practice, if you are aware of the variables. For example, taking a lane or anything that requires you to look over your shoulder *might* be more dangerous (as mobius suggests) with headphones *assuming* that the car in front of you has audible brakes. If the car is a prius for example, you're gonna hit it if it suddenly stops while you check behind you regardless of the presence of headphones. "It's dangerous" isn't a self explanatory answer, anyways. I know plenty of bikers that have had accidents involving cars, and thus far the circumstances have indicated that the sense of hearing was irrelevant. A seasoned biker is not going to stop, slow down, or even swerve if a loud car is approaching them from behind because *many cars are loud and almost all of them are going fast enough to kill you*. "At least I heard it coming" seems to be the best support for advising against dual-headphones thus far.

    If you know your route or have a keen sense of how and when to take a lane for safety and otherwise safely and for the purpose of safety integrate yourself into traffic, and you are listening quietly enough to hear horns and sirens, then an experienced rider is probably negligibly worse off with headphones in than without.

    Oh and "it's illegal" is similarly devoid of rationale or support. Jaywalking is illegal too and makes biking dangerous, yet people jaywalk, drivers speed, and some of us listen to music when we ride.

    So can I ask any commenters what the *specific* dangers of riding with headphones are that aren't attributable to riding in general? So far only Mobius has given credible support, and she still listens to music.

    Perhaps the more dangerous element of biking is not recognizing that you, too, are a part of the flow of traffic, and that you need to be aware of how and why the cars around you are behaving.

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  • Bilogofulltwitter_small
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    There's a road bias, understandably enough, in these answers so far. The best way to bike and listen to music is to ride off-road, i.e., mountain bike. It's not illegal to use earbuds, you don't have to worry about traffic, and it's great exercise.

    Otherwise I'd agree with David Hiller, don't do it. Heck I've ridden up behind road cyclists who're plugged in and they can't even hear me talking to them. Definitely unwise.

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  • 32
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    I think it's dangerous enough to avoid altogether. It definately doesn't make riding safer. That being said, we all have our favorite vices. I do silly, dangerous things on bikes too but they don't include listenng to music while riding!

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    I'm an avid music-listening cyclist, and I believe it doesn't comprimise safety if you do it right. In addition to the other tips here:

    -Use ear buds that don't seal the ear canal; these will have minimal effect on hearing when not on. Avoid "canalphones".

    -If you can block out wind noise (there are products you can buy for this - it's a similar effect to putting a vertical finger in front of your ear), you can listen at lower volume, increasing safety and reducing risk of hearing loss.

    -I generally listen to music only on mostly empty bike trails or back roads. I like to have a pause/stop button accessible, so I can hear when I need to.

    -Overcompensate for the lack of hearing. Look everywhere. Assume nobody can see you.

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    I've been riding w/ tunes since the 80's. If you feel it's unsafe, then don't do it. I've never had a problem, myself.

    It's really quite simple: no matter what you're playing, those little earbuds don't have the fidelity for the low-end, the area of sounds where car-engines operate. I can hear (and feel) when a car is behind me, because the music isn't operating at that frequency. Other than that, what else do you need your ears for? Being a safe cyclist depends 95% on your eyes & your head. I'm certainly not worried if a car door opens _behind_ me, and I'm not going to be making any turns w/o looking first, whether there's a car there or not.

    Also, the wind passing over my ears does a much better job of blocking street sounds than a walkman/cd/ipod ever could. I usually have to turn my head, whether I'm wearing earphones or not, to check if I've heard the traffic correctly.

    I keep my eyes open, I ride like I'm traffic, I make eye contact w/ drivers, I signal my turns & I keep to the right as best I can. I also listen to music. Again, if you feel it's unsafe, then don't do it. But there's no "trick" to riding w/ music, aside from doing all those other things riders should be doing anyway.

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    Boy a bunch of you must be inexperienced bikers who would presume there are no deaf people who bike because they have all been killed in the act of dangerously trying to bike without hearing.

    I recently started biking again. First I did not use headphones, then started. The experience was weird because I was acutely aware of how I was relying on my ears for things previously. My biking is certainly SAFER now that I don't trust my hearing to tell if a car is behind me. I ALWAYS look now. And I am SURE that some of you non-music listening people are far more reliant on your hearing than you should be, when you should ALWAYS look.

    For example an inexperienced biker may swerve out into the middle of the street arbitrarily when they get distracted or lazy. This would be the equivalent of swerving a little in to the left lane while driving a car. Both of these acts are ALWAYS dangerous unless you have looked with your eyes in preparation for the swerve (which may be necessary for some reason like a pedestrian etc).

    Hearing is so minor when you consider you should assume NO ONE sees you. Motorcyclists have to deal with this in the sense that many motorcycle accidents occur and the person driving the car says "I just didn't see the motorcyclist". The person who mentioned the driver who was texting is seriously wrong to assume anyone is NOT texting while pulling out. Give me a break! I'm going to guess that (nearly) every single person on this thread who does not wear ear buds doesn't actually bike that often, or that far.

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  • N10708779_175_small
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    I don't know if it would be legal per se, but you could get some big "DJ" or "studio" headphones (usually around $40 at a music shop), and just wear them on your neck with the volume way up. It will sound a little tinny because you won't have that warm enclosed sound that you get with them on your ears, but it won't significantly limit your ability to hear noises around you or annoy your neighbors. And when you get home, you can use them for more high definition listening.

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  • 4562048073_05271a0ba3_b-1_small
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    One ear bud in, not two. Run the headphones up through your shirt to keep them from getting caught on anything. A good way to hear better while riding is to turn your ear into the wind by turning your head to the side. It cuts the sound of the wind. When I ride with an ear bud, I turn my head into the wind like this every time I approach an intersection to make sure I know if a car is coming. Even without music I do this a lot. I actually find the music helps me from focusing on noise from the sidewalks etc. Sometimes the worst thing is a distraction away from the cars and a short lapse of attention, turn back and BAM! the car in front slammed on the brakes while I was looking at a pretty bike parked at Monorail. Just remember to see the whole road the whole time and listen for those cars!

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    If you have Bluetooth, Motorola S9 stereo headphones are specifically designed not to block ambient sound -- they're designed as a bluetooth phone headset that you can keep on while talking in person, too. If you keep the music at a reasonable volume, they're quite safe. (I keep mine at a volume where I can still hear my own tires on the pavement -- hearing a car is no problem at all, even a hybrid, assuming ambient noise doesn't drown out all individual vehicle sounds.)

    As for legality, headphones are illegal if (1) your vehicle has a motor, and (2) the headphones "muffle or exclude other sounds." (RCW 46.37.48)

    My bicycle doesn't have a motor, and the S9 is designed not to muffle or exclude other sounds, so the FUD folks are out of luck on that angle.

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  • Img_0118_small
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    no.

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  • Burningman_thumb_small
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    I think there is a lot of Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD) spread about cycling with headphones. I do, regularly.

    First, know your experience and acknowledge your skill level. Many states now limit new young drivers in an effort to reduce distractions, such placing age limits on passengers and limiting the times one can drive. Police yourself accordingly.

    My personal habits depend on time of day, traffic level, road or trail, urban commute or long distance ride. Definitely run you headphone cord inside a shirt like Mobius suggests. Keep your mp3 player where it is secure such as in a backpack and don't fiddle with it while you're riding. The pocket on my hoodie works fine. Don't use headphones that cover your ears. I prefer junky earbuds from Radio Shack as I wear out the cable every couple of months.

    For a time, I religiously only used a single ear-bud, but the conversations with drivers about how bicycles should be on the sidewalk and not in the street got boring.

    The effect on your hearing obviously depends on a number of factors such as having one or two earbuds in as well as, obviously but often not noted, your volume level. It's easy to ride with a setup that allows you more hearing than you would in a car with the radio off but the windows rolled up.

    At the very least, you have to be able to hear a horn for that one in a million time when someone honks to signal danger rather than their frustration, but you should be able to find a satisfactory balance between hearing most of the sounds of traffic and your music as well. You'll have no problem hearing emergency vehicles, accidents and other important audible clues at this level, and can always pull an ear-bud to discern the police officer yelling at you over his public address system from his car behind you.

    Keep in mind that the most important reason for being able to hear traffic is because you need to be proactive in your safety where others fail. Are you going to hear the car approaching you from behind at three times your speed when your headphones off? Maybe, depends on the car, its acceleration, and the other sounds around you. In any case, are you going to have time to look over your shoulder, calculate a path and evade? That's totally situational. I've never had to dodge a car coming up behind me, but it may happen.

    Don't worry about needing to hear the airplane that could hit you while you're listening to music on your bike, think about the situations that will engage you and act appropriately.

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