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Portland bomber: odd choice of target, no? If you were a real terrorist... Why Portland??

Entrapment questions aside....
Do you agree or disagree with lefty pundits who have hypothesized that Portland was chosen because of their tough anti-Homeland Security/pro-civil rights stance their city council took about 5 years ago?
Suddenly yesterday Mayor Adams is backpedalling to say 'maybe we should cooperate with the joint FBI security team... our decision 5 years ago was maybe a mistake..."
Hmm. Doubt it.

So, was Portland chosen (by the FBI, mind you, not any real terrorists) as a way to loosen up Portland's staunch anti-bush anti-fear decisions 5 years ago?
This whole staged/manufactured thing certainly got the fear blooming in a hurry, didn't it?

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  • 0prr6_small
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    The time and place are the idea of the kid himself. He felt that doing it there would give folks a sense that nowhere in America is safe. Allegedly, it is this very aggressive, kill-lots-of-children approach that got the feds so interested. It is also why they worked so hard to build a case against him that would remove him from society for as long as possible.

    What would it take for you to accept that he is a real terrorist? The only difference between Timothy McVeigh and this kid is that McVeigh had a more reliable bomb supplier. Both parked vans they believed to be full of explosives and set off detonators. Both were anxious to kill children for the sole purpose of terrorizing Americans. If the FBI had supplied the truck McVeigh used would you dismiss him the same way?

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  • Labcoat_small
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    I think it was chosen because it was the nearest 'big city' to Corvallis. This kid clearly had no resources of his own, the FBI provided him with everything except the desire to lash out and hurt people. I suspect his radicalization had as much to do with fanaticism as teenage despair.

    I seriously doubt that there was much of a political decision about directing him to the target. I seem to recall that he chose it himself in fact. If the FBI or the government wanted to make a broad political point they could have loaded him with some fake explosives sent him to an airport to be detected by the back-scatter imagers. That would have scored everybody (FBI, TSA, DHS) some points.

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    As an exercise in studies on terrorism, I was once part of a group that proposed hypothetical attacks upon American infrastructure, cultural sites, political sites and economic sites.

    For a terror attack to be effective you have to have a target, a means to a target and a goal. In the case of this student, he did not have the ability to make a significant strike against a major political-cultural-economic target. So he chose something close and culturally poigniant at the time.

    In his case he chose a cultural target to create fear and to assault something that he would see decadent and symbolic of the West.

    Personally as part of the exercise, I chose a hypothetical multiple simultanious assault on suburban Primary and junior high schools similar to the Beslan school siege in Russia as potentially one of the most dangerous strikes to the American psyche and economic sectors.

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