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Other cocktails to drink?

Ok. I'm not really a wine drinker. My palate is completely amateur.

I don't like red, and white doesn't really go with much except fish and light pastas (right?), and overall, I have a hard time picking wines. The only wine I genuinely enjoy is prosecco.

So I end up ordering cocktails at dinners and parties -- except I don't know much about cocktails either. Wee!

My go-to drink right now is a whiskey sour ... not too fussy, not too sweet, something vaguely respectable. I am a wimp when it comes to scotch, so Old-Fashioneds and the like have been out for me. (Or can I ask for it to be made with whiskey instead? I know nothing about cocktail etiquette or lingo.)

What are other cocktails similar to my current tastes that I can order socially and not feel wimpy or unsophisticated?

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  • Nose_small
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    Hi Gloria,

    I'm a bartender and I love talking about liquors with my customers and making up new drinks based on their tastes. I am guessing other bartenders will too, if you find the right ones.

    Some tips on talking to bartenders, since you said you're intimidated by them:

    1. Go to a bar that isn't swamped so that the bartender has time to talk to you about your tastes without being hounded by other orders coming in.

    2. Find a bartender who looks like he likes his job. The ones with surly looks on their faces or who look like they're counting down the minutes till they can go home. Once you find a knowledgeable and friendly bartender, become his/her regular--go in frequently and use this person as a teacher.

    3. Start small--taste a couple of each kinds of liquors (rum, gin, vodka, whiskey, tequila are the basics) and see what you like. You may find that although you thought you didn't like tequila, what you really didn't like was the ever-present Jose Cuervo you had tried in the past.

    4. Once you figure out what types of spirits you enjoy, buy some at the store and take it home. Mix it with different juices, sodas, heck, even water, and taste how it changes. You'll start to get a good idea of the flavor profiles that work well together.

    5.When you have a good handle on that (don't need to get too complex to start--two or three ingredients is a good place to start), go out to bars. If you found you loved a certain kind of whiskey, go to a bar that has that whiskey and ask the bartender to make you something with it, keeping in mind what you learned from mixing it at home. (you can also just do this first before the previous suggestion of making drinks at home).

    All that said, a cocktail you will probably enjoy is a French 75--traditionally, it is made with lemon, sugar and gin which are shaken together (I muddle the lemon with sugar, but everyone does things differently) and then strained into a martini or high ball glass and topped with dry champagne/prosecco/sparkling wine and a lemon twist. I love it.

    Old Fashioneds and Manhattans are excellent drinks, but if you don't enjoy them, maybe what you don't like is the vermouth they contain. If you have just been afraid to try them because of what you think is in them, know that you can order any drink, anywhere, any way you want it. That's why James Bond can say "shaken, not stirred" about his martinis--it's not the tuxedo, it's the culture of the bar.

    Figure out what you like and then order it that way. I have people order Manhattans from me in all sorts of ways "made with Knob Creek, stirred with a little bit of maraschino and half each of dry and sweet vermouths, extra bitters" or "well Manhattan" are equally okay.

    I hope that helps. You're learning and it should be fun because you're learning about alcohol. Enjoy!

     

    Oh, one last note, about wine: the same thing I said about tequila can be said here. You may not dislike all red wine--it could be that what you've had in the past has been too dry or sweet or tannic or just straight up bad wine. There should be several wine tastings available in your area, a lot of them free. Check with wine shops, wine bars, and even local grocery stores to see what they have to offer. Go check one out.

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    To many drinkers there are three kinds of cocktails. Martinis, manhattans and everything else. I am not entirely in the school of thought but do appreciate it.

    Certainly, the martini is the place to start. It is simple, it is elegant, it is delish and it packs a wallop.

    But your question is too potentially expansive for this format and the nutshell answer is going to be for you to try a bunch of different cocktails and sally forth.

    Pick up a copy of "The Fine Art of Mixing Drinks" if you want to get serious.

    You can use any kind of whiskey or many brandies for an old fashioned. You may like the brandy types best.

    You like prosecco so try a bellini.

    I'm a fan of manhattans. If you want to try some real odd and creative cocktails I recommend Hazelwood or the Zig Zag. The bartenders there are awfully accomodating to neophytes who are serious about expanding their appreciation for cocktails.

    I'm all about seasonality and my drinks of choice change througout the year. From Hot buttered rum in the winter to mojitos in summer, I love it all. But my fall back is always the manhattan and the martini.

    good luck!

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    A very good internet resource is http://12bottlebar.com

    Now, you may be saying, I don't even care about cocktails that much, and this whole speakeasy thing is kind of ridiculous. Why would I want to read someone talking slightly snootily about something I don't even care a lot about. And, if you are saying this, I actually kind of agree with you on all counts.

    But, somehow, though I am not very interested in cocktails (and when I first started reading this site, was not at all interested - and had never ordered any cocktail but a gin and tonic or a bloody mary), the posts that go with each of the twelve bottles of liquor and the cocktails to be made from them are fantastic and fun to read. And they also get you excited about trying the given cocktails. Or at least they did me. And also, many of the drinks are pretty simple and follow the "alcohol+sour thing" model. There also isn't an overwhelming amount of drinks, and that's good, too.

    So, yeah. In fact, there is a specific post about Whiskey Sours and things similar to them:

    http://12bottlebar.com/2010/04/19/the-whiskey-sour-four-ways/

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