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Should I avoid buying a Subaru?

This will be my first winter in snowy, icy SW Colorado. Right now I have a 2WD Ranger with 183k miles on it. I need a reliable vehicle with good fuel economy for the winter. The Subaru Outback and Impreza look good, but a friend with a 1999 Subaru Outback cautioned me that the head gaskets are prone to leakage and that it's a costly fix. Is this true of all Subaru years and models? Is there another make/model that I should look into for my needs (4WD, manual transmission, good mpg)?

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  • Wa_usa_small
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    No, you should not avoid buying a Subaru.

    You should buy a Subaru because they are AWESOME. I love my Subaru. I've got 169,000 miles on my 99 Outback and it's still running like a champ.

    I had to do the head gaskets a while back. I had a catastrophic failure climbing up Ryegrass Summit three years ago on the way home from the Apple Cup (thank God for AAA). Got it towed back to my mechanic in the Seattle area and it wasn't a huge deal. I don't remember what the price was, but it wasn't astronomical. I think it was in the middle to high 3 figures.

    This summer I blew another gasket in Skagit County, can't remember precisely which one, but the bill WITH a new timing chain that we decided to do simultaneously was $300 and change.

    I've owned this car since it had 140k on it, and it was my brother's for the preceeding 50k. Those are the two gasket incidents the vehicle has endured in the approximately 90,000 miles it's been in my family. That's not enough to discourage me.

    Also, if you are able to run thicker oil, you can stave off gasket problems. I run 10w40 when I can (some shops don't stock it, and I don't always have the time to change it myself). If you are able to run thick oil in an old Subaru, you'll be better off, however that may be a luxury unavailable to you in Colorado cold weather.

    Also, bear in mind that whether or not a car comes from an area where roads are salted will have a great deal to do with it's longevity as a viable used car for you. I'm no expert, but I'd venture to guess they probably salt the roads in Colorado. If you can buy a Subaru that came from Seattle or Los Angeles you'll be better off.

    In short, I'd say the Suby is light and nimble, it never gets stuck in the snow, I haven't used my tire chains EVER and it even does ok pulling a small boat. Yes, I've had some gasket issues, but all cars have their foibles. My current Suby is running strong at 169k and my previous '93 Legacy ran to 245k before the engine crapped out.

    For what it's worth, my last Ford Explorer ran to 118k when the transmission crapped out. I spent $2500 to drop a new tranny in that beast, and the engine quit 7,000 miles later. I swore I'd never deal with that kind of bullshit again, and switched to Subaru.

    I couldn't be happier with my 99 Outback. You should buy a Subaru.

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  • Meansceneprod-gothgirl7872_small
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    Not all, but many Subarus produced from 1996 to 2000 are/were prone to head gasket problems. If you're set on buying one made in those years do your homework and make sure that either you're buying a non-faulty-engine-model(!?!), or that the head gaskets have already been replaced.
    If you can afford it just get a newer Subaru or, if you can find it, an older one (hint: there are A LOT of lesbians who live in Cascadia).
    If you want 4WD, good mpg. and dependability in the price range of a 1999 Outback there's not really much else out there (Honda CRV maybe?).

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  • Fbbw_small
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    I've been driving my 97 Outback for 10 years and have never had any problems. I change the oil at least every 5000 miles and have hit most of the major tune-up times. It's a great car that I'm planning on driving into the ground.

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  • Subcultureoftwo_small
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    This is purely anecdotal information, but you may find it useful.

    My in-laws drive a 1996 Subaru Legacy to this day, and it's never given them a moment of trouble. The insurance company finally totaled it last year...when a hailstorm dented the hood, but that's the only issue (and a cosmetic one at that). They also live at 7,000 feet and get lots of winter snow and cold temps, which may or may not affect your decision. They raised three kids and a grandkid with it, and often drive it between NM and ID, 15 hours at a stretch. No problem.

    Mr. Sacrelicious says the only diff between the Legacy and the Outback is that the Outback has one more inch of clearance.

    From everything I've heard, Subarus are great used cars. They're nearly bombproof and often get well over 300,000 miles. We're planning to make that our next (used) car when my Exploder reaches the end of the road.

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  • Cateyes_small
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    What are people driving in your area? I lurve my Subaru, but there are lots of other great cars out there. You may find, actually, that because Colorado is drier than other places, even though it might be cold and snowy that the roads aren't actually all that bad.

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  • 2-jacob_20lawrence_20-_20the_20builders_2c_20the_20family_20-_20serigraph_1__small
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    FWIW, very happy with our '09 Forester.

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  • Stuffie_small
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    This is a total anecdote but may go a little ways to confirm a bigger picture.
    A friend had a 1994 Subaru Outback. It had this very problem - leaky head gasket. He went MacGyver on on it; took it apart and repaired it himself.
    He sold it shortly thereafter and bought a Prius.

    He says I have to stop calling him a lesbian now but I'm not so sure.
    (See Kristin, I get to do it because I'm riffing on you not the original poster)

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  • Photo_on_2012-01-03_at_17
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    I think it all might depend on whether or not you are a lesbian.

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  • Bikeedited_small
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    Hey everyone, cut that out. Subarus know no race/gender/sexuality.

    I had an '86 GL wagon with on demand 4WD. No head gasket problems but the oil pump went, which was an cheap repair.

    That car took me to Snoqualmie Pass and beyond in all weather conditions and it was a champ. I bought it at 104k miles and it went to 200k just fine.

    And if yours ever needs repairs, take it to Superior Subaru in Burien. Steve is the best.

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