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  8 3 No matter how bad the economy gets, I still won't go to McDonalds for my coffee. Marty Unger answered in Science & Technology over 3 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  4 1 Those answers were clearly all oriented towards people who are super-tech savvy. I convinced my 60 year old mother to switch to a Mac and she loves it. She just reads the Internet and e-mail. And the people at the Mac store even offer lessons on how to do things (use Excel, Power Point, set up file sharing) so it's great for her there also. But the selling point is really not having to worry about five different obnoxious programs for Anti-Spyware, Anti-Virus, Anti-Adware, and then some other Firewall that breaks your programs. Whenever I deal with a PC and see all the pop ups from AV companies asking people to renew or update, I am so thankful I paid the extra 100 in advance. But I'd get a cheap Mac. The lowest end brands are still SO amazing. BombasticMo answered in Science & Technology over 3 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  3 0 PC with Linux. Everything breaks (including Macs), but a PC will be cheaper to begin with and replacement parts are astronomically less expensive. Not to mention you can easily fix your own PC without having to deal with Apple's proprietary bullshit. The problem with PCs is that Windows sucks. That's where Ubuntu comes in. automg answered in Science & Technology over 3 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  2 0 If you're concerned about prices try looking for a refurbished Mac from the Apple store. You can still get Apple Care on it and from all I've heard they work out well. I've had a PC my whole life, but today, yes today, I bought a second hand Mac from someone trust-worthy and I couldn't be more excited! Renée answered in Science & Technology over 3 years ago | Report 1 comment by B Strand… 0 0 Yeah, I balk when people quote Macs at a grand, or in the case of the OP, "an extra grand" I picked up a Mac mini for 400$ refurbished in their online store. B Strand commented over 2 years ago | Report Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  1 0 Mac for sure. You can run virtually any operating system on a Mac. The ease of use, speed, and power are all worth the slightly higher price tag. I used to have three computers: Mac running OSX, and two DELL boxes - one for Linux and one for Windows. Now I have a single laptop with Linux, Windows XP, Windows 7 and OSX. Dan answered in Science & Technology over 3 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  3 2 Always Mac. Overpriced, but the dependability and intuitiveness are worth it. Some people grouse about Apple products, but I've never had a major problem with any Mac, iPod, etc. that I've owned. Aaron Huffman answered in Science & Technology over 3 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  2 2 Being in IT, I can assure you that Macs are not somehow naturally "intuitive" nor do you have the diagnostic tools available when something does go wrong. For instance, when 10.5.6 came out, our marketing department (All Macs) started having absurdly long webpage load times due to DNS server connection and transfer errors. It wasn't something that you could easily diagnose through the Mac itself. If it had been a PC I could have done simple cmd line entries to see where the problem resided (Is it the connection itself into our switches? Is it DNS lookup? Is it DNS errors on our ISP's side? If so why is the problem localized to only our Mac users?). Turns out that the problem is ingrained in 10.5.6 and the supposed work arounds suggested by users (like setting a static DNS for another ISP) don't always work. Another example is the Adobe patch downloader program where it was crashing every time it initialized a transfer. There was a workaround posted but it didn't work for every product update download. The only solution was to do each update individually and manually. Yet another problem is searching for files in subdirectories on networked drives. You have to search in the subdirectory, not at the highest level on the drive. As or the inherent intuitive nature of Macs, I find it that laughable. Intuition is built upon by experience, and switching from a PC to a Mac after 20+ years of PC use, nothing on a Mac is intuitive. The locations specific settings for programs, system settings, access to programs that aren't on the dock, etc etc are not intuitive to a long time PC user. And given the market share of Windows OS over OS X, I doubt that many people besides long time Mac users find it intuitive. Chock Full of Answers answered in Science & Technology over 3 years ago | Report 4 comments by Cosmo Catalano, Chock Full of Answers, and Cosmo Catalano… 1 0 Wow, an IT guy who hates Macs! Thanks for keeping the world on XP Service Patch 2 for the past 5 years! I find it kind of amusing you're blaming Macs because *you* had difficulty diagnosing a problem in *your own infrastructure*. While I'm not the IT guru I once was, I can tell you that OS X has excellent command line integration (through the Terminal app) and I'm willing to bet it was your inability, not the OS's, that made your work so hard. As for the bug in 10.5.6, it's something that happens. All software has glitches; IT staff should know this. Like the bug in your Adobe installer, which was written by Adobe, not Apple. Are you really taking aim at Apple because this third-party script didn't work? And seriously, I could rattle off a few Windows bugs here, but space is limited. Then there's your network drive complaint, which also shows a concerning lack of knowledge for an IT guy. In addition to the IP address or name of the drive you're connecting to, you can also specify a path. Try starting with "/Volumes" and working your way down from there. I agree the intuitiveness argument is a bit of a canard. But complaining that applications not on the Dock are located in the "Applications" folder, or that preferences for applications (Safari, for example) are under "Preferences" in the "Safari" menu? Come on—how silver does the platter have to be? I'm no fanboy. I've got plenty of beef with Apple (DRM, pricing, no root access to iPhone, etc.). But working on a PC at the office each day probably costs me 200 hours of productivity a year. And that's being conservative. Cosmo Catalano commented over 3 years ago | Report 0 0 I don't claim to be an expert or even mediocre on Macs or on some of our own NT based infrastructure but think about the situation that I'm in. Macs comprise less than 5% of all systems I oversee. I'd definitely have to spend more than 5% of my time using a Mac just to be proficient enough to serve our Mac users. Sure, the Adobe thing is an Adobe problem but the claims by some is that Macs don't have the same problems when, by the nature of running 3rd party software, they do. To compound this, when your 3rd party problems affect everyone in the department because they use the same platform, the affinity of the end-users to one platform is a liability. I'd like to tell our marketing folks that glitches happen and to deal with it but when their Macs have a hiccup they're the biggest babies about it. For the network drive issue, I'm not sure you understand what the problem is. It has to do with Finder's search function and given the lack of will on our marketing departments to create a file structure they often don't know where to look for files they've saved. Trying to use the Finder search function at the root of the network drive doesn't return any results. Once they go into a subfolder and use Finder's search function they can find any and every file within that folder. It might be really easy to remedy but again, less than 5% of systems but more than 5% of my time. Chock Full of Answers commented over 3 years ago | Report 0 0 I don't know what protocol you're using to connect to the networked drive, but every drive I connect to using apple+K from the Finder mounts on my Desktop and searches just fine with the built-in bar in the Finder window. As for the 5% complaint, I've thrown together a quick IT cheat-sheet for your busy schedule: http://blog.expandrive.com/2009/04/08/the-busy-it-professionals-cheatsheet-for-os-x/. Shouldn't take more than a few seconds to read and refer to, and contains most of the meat you'll need to do your job. Cosmo Catalano commented over 3 years ago | Report 0 0 Thank you! Also, I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who opines about the time problem. 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  0 0 I thought this was a really good answer to your question: http://www.slate.com/id/2215267/ Matt answered in Science & Technology over 3 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  0 0 another point to remember: some Macs can also run Windows. oh whatev, mind answered in Science & Technology over 3 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  0 0 I know what you mean Jimm...my parents just got a laptop PC and didn't spend that much on it. It is a decent machine for what they need--internet, email, solitaire and looking at photos. Still, I can't stand PCs. I often have to help my parents set things up or figure stuff out on the PC because they aren't too techie. PCs make me mad, because it is as if the machine and all the programmers want nothing more than to infuriate you and make you feel stupid. I don't know. The thing about Macs is that they are elegant compared to clumsy PCs. Take the wireless mouse for example. I know it is silly, but with the mac you turn it on and the computer pairs it: simple, easy. With a PC you have to have a separate thingy-doodad to lose that you plug into a port and then you have the mouse and then it connects somehow. You might as well attach a cord! I'm sorry this response is getting so long. You'll always have people who love their PCs and will defend them. There are the Linux nerds of course. You'll RARELY have people who will defend Windows OS. And I've actually never heard of anyone (although I'm sure there is someone out there) who has gone BACK to a PC after having a Mac. Do you want to enjoy, nay, LOVE and have fun with the machine you use for so many hours per day, or do you want to be annoyed on a regular basis with it? If you really don't like computers and think you never will...then I guess, think of it in terms of only money and get a PC. If you are open to the possibility of there being something more, something exciting and magical about computing, even if you are a newbie, then, by all means go for the Mac. Like Charles here said: why don't you just sleep on a cot? It works for sleeping. Some people might even prefer cots. Personally, I like a nice, soft bed with a lot of pillows and stuffed animals for fun! :) Kristin Bell answered in Science & Technology over 3 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  1 1 An extra grand? What are the PC and Macs you were looking at? Or did you get the "extra grand" concept from a Microsoft ad? I was recently looking at the many many laptop PCs at Best Buy and was surprised at how cheaply built they were. Seriously, I thought I was going to break a few simply by touching them. stinkbug answered in Science & Technology over 3 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  0 0 Why don't you sleep on a cot? It's much cheaper, it may fall apart occasionally and not be comfortable, but your mostly just sleeping on it. Charles B answered in Science & Technology over 3 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  0 1 PC for Price Mac for Pride Chock Full of Answers answered in Science & Technology over 3 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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