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  6 0 Being vegan isn't just about diet, often it's about personal philosophy towards eating. There's a perception that being vegan makes you inherently hostile towards people who happily and comfortably consume animal products. No one likes dating to start out on such politically-charged grounds, and for women especially, food can be sensitive. No girl wants to feel that you will analyze what's on her plate and judge her for it. Ick. So, I imagine those ladies who declined to step forward did so because they imagined there would be a big headache - emotional and otherwise - in even arranging a single date. I know it would have stopped me. MyrnaMinkoff answered in Whatever over 2 years ago | Report 2 comments by Lee and Billy in 4C… 0 0 It doesn't seem to me like it's just about being judged (but I'm not a lady, so what do I know?) -- knowing that someone is a vegan would basically place 95% of all food that I enjoy off-limits for the person I'm dating. And food, at least for me, is a fun aspect of any relationship, whether romantic or friendly. Lee commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 I'm with Lee. We eat 3 meals a day. Dietary incompatibility is not something to be overlooked. I know relationships are about compromise, but vegans have such strict rules that it doesn't really allow them to find a middle ground. So, for the meat eater, its eat vegan or cook a completely separate meal. Billy in 4C commented over 2 years ago | Report Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  7 4 Personally, I have never dated a vegan, but I have dated a guy who was allergic to wheat, dairy, and shellfish and it was the biggest pain in my ass ever. He would insist we attempt to eat wherever I would normally eat and then 15 minutes of ordering time would be taken up analyzing the menu with the server to determine what exactly he could eat. It got to be very, very tiring. If you add limitations about where one can eat with tiresome proselytizing, I wouldn't want to go there either. jeze answered in Whatever over 2 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  4 2 First, don't ever get too mentally tied to the what-ifs when it comes to finding out So-and-So would have asked you out if you were/weren't/did/didn't X, Y, Z, etc. The moment is lost. All has changed since then. It's not worth it to spend any time trying to figure out others' dating filters, especially filters from the past. That said, while I could say more women tend to be carnivorous due to women usually needing more iron intake, etc. there's a greater issue here. Saying "I'm vegan" is a brave statement in the context of dating someone, in the same way as saying "I like comic books" is or stating anything that colloquially means "I really specialize in something you may not like." You should be proud of being vegan, obviously, but don't be surprised or feel betrayed if date candidates aren't down with that. And to be honest, you sound a little bitter about the diet difference thing given your statement "the sound of free-flowing blood through clear arteries would keep her awake at night?" referring to your diet. It is possible to eat meat and have free-flowing arteries too. PS: I'm a vegetarian who's in love with a carnivore. Also, this is Seattle. You'll find vegan luvin'. Mackro Mackro answered in Whatever over 2 years ago | Report 7 comments by Lee, Mackro Mackro, and Lee… 0 0 How is it "not worth it"? While I agree that dwelling on what might have been is usually a sign of complacency and bad priorities, wanting to know why certain might-have-beens specifically did not happen is not the same. Examining your past mistakes (and successes), and learning from them, is not the same as obsessing over the past. So, yes, figuring out "others' dating filters" -- as well as other aspects of human behavior -- is absolutely "worth it" in the sense that understanding people makes you a more capable human being. Lee commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 If we're talking about gaining social skills, I totally agree. But we're not. The context here is that hoffa was passed over just because he (or she?) was vegan. The pass-over is worth noting, but not worth figuring out, especially since veganism is not a social misbehavior. Mackro Mackro commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 No, no, no. The fact that I did something that caused someone else to consider me bad dating material does not make me a criminal. BUT I'D STILL LIKE TO KNOW WHY! The same applies for this question: veganism does not have to be a "social misbehavior" in order for hoffa to stand to benefit from knowing "why being vegan can be a turn-off for the ladies." Lee commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Agree to disagree? I used to "want to know why" all the time too, and while this was useful early on, it's not something that should be more than notable - especially when the factor is a lifestyle choice of which one is proud. Mackro Mackro commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 Mackro: No, I will never agree to disagree with you on whether or not one becomes a better and more capable human being by understanding why many people object to vegans. Even though, as you point out, veganism is a reasonable choice of diets. Lee commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 i wasn't really worried about the So-and-So's because i knew who they were - and i wouldn't have wanted to date them anyway. and i didn't mean to give the impression that this was a case of "sour grapes" - to me, the notion that being vegan makes you less (or even more) "date-able" seemed really silly because i wouldn't care if someone i was interested in was vegan or not. i realize now that i was being too simplistic about what "being vegan" was all about - i simply attributed it to diet. MyrnaMinkoff sums it up rather well, i think. hoffa commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 "PS: I'm a vegetarian who's in love with a carnivore." Being a vegan is much more strict than your requirements, though. Black Beetles in Amber commented over 2 years ago | Report Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  2 0 Any dates that have issues with food in anyway are doomed to fail. I went out with this guy who was very diet aware and proceded to lecture me about what he ate and blah blah blah. At dinner I ordered the fattiest things I could find on the menu and two deserts relishing each bite while he watched. Yeah, I didn't see him again (or wanted to) and had to double my running mileage for two weeks afterward. If food is an issue/concern in any relationship don't pursue it. Andy answered in Whatever over 2 years ago | Report 1 comment by hoffa… 0 0 i like your style. but i'm curious: if your date hadn't been preachy and let you gleefully consume whatever you wanted in his presence - do you think you would have seen him again? i'm back on meat - but my girlfriend is (mostly) vegan; we never have problems finding a place to eat together. but, then again, she doesn't get all bent out of shape about my eating something that contains gelatin - or filtered through ground-up animal bones. hoffa commented over 2 years ago | Report Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  2 0 They wouldn't be to me, but I used to be a vegetarian. keshmeshi answered in Whatever over 2 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  3 1 They have to adjust their eating habits for you every time they want to go have a meal with you. You're a picky eater, so you'll reject or won't enjoy many of the places she would want to eat at. Since eating is a reasonably significant portion of all our lives and since dates typically involve meals together, diet compatibility kind of is an important factor in choosing who to date. Steven Gomez answered in Whatever over 2 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  4 2 You claim that diet isn't a deal-breaker for you, but you were the one with dietary restrictions. For someone who eats meat, dating a vegetarian or vegan can be a pain in the ass. It limits the meat-eater's food options, both at home and when eating out. Mahtli69 answered in Whatever over 2 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  2 1 I am a vegetarian and dated a vegan for three years (he was an omnivore when we started dating). I didn't have a problem with his diet and for the most part we didn't have a problem finding alternative restaurants/bars to go to; however, the problems came about when he started becoming very preachy about his diet and judgemental of mine. With that said, I am a strong believer in following what you believe in, but if you are looking to force your diet/ideas upon someone else you should probably date someone who carries those same ideals. Allison answered in Whatever over 2 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  3 2 Yes, absolutely. Carole answered in Whatever over 2 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  2 2 In my case, it'd be because I love eating at restaurants - it's one of my little vices - and there are damned few vegan options at a lot of restaurants, and I don't want to live on millet and wheatgrass myself. Been there, done that, tired of the carrot juice. And I'm not even much of a carnivore - I haven't eaten red meat in almost 30 years. Geni answered in Whatever over 2 years ago | Report 1 comment by kibbies… 0 0 What kind of restaurants do you eat at? I don't think I've ever been to a non-chain restaurant in my 10 years in Seattle that doesn't have good vegan options. Especially in the younger neighborhoods - Capitol Hill, U District, Georgetown, etc. In the suburbs, it's a different story. kibbies commented over 2 years ago | Report Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  0 0 My vegan ex-boyfriend didn't think so for the three years that we dated. (former member) answered in Whatever over 2 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  0 0 Vegan is not a deal-breaker. Insufferable, annoying, preachy vegan is the deal-breaker. Which was it? beelzebufo answered in Whatever over 2 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  1 1 I think being vegan is much easier here in the NW than just about anywhere else. I've had loads of vegan friends and dates. What's hard, though, is the sneer on the face of your vegan date when you mention that you have a weakness for bacon. Or the increasingly shrill tone of your partner's voice when he starts lecturing your parents on how their food choices are bad for the planet. Or the "it's a way of life" announcements. But the sneer is the worst, and a 100% deal-breaker. Just Asking answered in Whatever over 2 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  7 9 The first letter of a sentence is capitalized, but common nouns, and articles, are not capitalized. Pronouns are not capitalized. Sentences ending with a question mark have no need of a period. Being vegan is not a deal breaker. The grapevine is only accusing the girl of being petty. Which she might be, or maybe the grapevine lies. As usual. All the women I know consider illiterates to be undatable, fwiw. elenchos answered in Whatever over 2 years ago | Report 3 comments by Lee, hoffa, and Violet DaGrinder… 0 0 Why is "elenchos" not capitalized? Lee commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 yes,yes - i take great liberties with punctuation and capitals. but i do it out of Love. thanks for your thoughts. hoffa commented over 2 years ago | Report 0 0 LMAO Violet DaGrinder commented over 2 years ago | Report Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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  1 3 I would not date a vegan because I love to cook and bake and I want to date someone who is willing to eat/enjoy what I cook and bake. :) Also, while most restaurants have some vegetarian options, lots of awesome restaurants don't really have vegan options. Since I love to go out to eat, I feel like we'd have a limited set of restaurants to go to. Even a vegetarian might be a stretch for me, at least if it was for "save the animals" reasons because I generally just find that a little annoying. Health/environmental reasons would be more ok as long as the person was then reasonable about the fact that not all eating-of-animals is terrible for the health/environment and thus flexible about eating meat on occasion. I dated a mostly veggie guy last year, but he was still willing for me to roast him a free-range/organic chicken once, so flexible enough for us to coexist peacefully. :) Sara answered in Whatever over 2 years ago | Report Comment on this answer Enter your comment or ask a new question preview THIS IS A PREVIEW: Click "Post" to submit it or "Edit" to make changes. edit Please wait… This could take a minute if the tubes are clogged.

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