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  • How big of a deal is it if you get caught driving with an expired license in WA?
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    Here's what I've heard from my contact at the court:
    Suspended is a big deal, obviously. You'll be arrested for it (criminal offense). Expired is a $250 ticket (traffic infraction). Technically they can make you walk or call a cab or a friend, but many cops won't be that mean. If you submit by mail written proof that you have renewed your license they court will reduce the fine to $50.

  • Why does the SPD non-emergency line go to 911?
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    When I've called the non-emergency number I had to go through an automated system and press at least two numbers to speak with someone. I've called both 911 and the non-emergency line in the past; they do answer the lines in a way that is somewhat similar, but the non-emergency operators make it clear that they're not 911 (from what I remember).

    My guess is that at 4 in the morning the non-emergency number isn't staffed, so the call gets forwarded to the 911 line. Or maybe you pressed the wrong number and got the 911 line - I can't remember how the non-emergency line menu worked, but they bury the number to reach the operators under several options.

    I think being a 911 operator is a really difficult job, and based on your description I can see why the operator got pissed at you - remember, he probably didn't know (or care) that you were trying to call the non-emergency number, and it sounds like you came across as argumentative.

    First, when the operator asks what your emergency is, they're not expecting a conversation about semantics, or questions about phone numbers on the SPD website - they just want a quick description of what's going on so they can figure out what to do next. They are trained to interrupt you and redirect the conversation if you are not giving them the information they need.

    Second, never say someone is sleeping when they are passed out drunk - being asleep and being passed out are very different situations, and using the word "sleeping" does not help the operator assess the situation.

    Third, you didn't stop to check the guy so you couldn't give the operator the information they need to assess the situation, such as whether the guy is breathing, responsive, appears injured, etc. If you can't answer these questions, I don't think there is anything the operator can do - they have to have some indication of danger to send someone out.

    Both you and the 911 operator had different expectations going into the conversation, and it sounds like you both responded in ways that escalated the miscommunication and frustration. But there's really no excuse to go off on a 911 operator the way you did - he was doing his job; you weren't giving him the information he needed. I know you weren't trying to call 911, but once they answered you should have just described the situation and let them make the call about what to do.

    I actually would have called 911, because if someone is passed out in the street I consider that a situation that poses danger to the guy's life. Ideally I would stop & check the guy too, unless I thought I would be in danger myself. I would have said something like, "there's a guy laying face-down in the street (at this address), he might be intoxicated - he's laying out where he could get hit by a car. I tried to wake him up but he won't move." Then I would answer the 911 operator's questions as best as I could. It's really important to be brief and try to describe what is going on as objectively as possible.

    Anyways, nothing wrong with the people who answer 911 or the non-emergency line, except their job is to sit for 8 hours hearing graphic details of tragedies and the horrible things that humans do to each other. Also both the 911 and non-emergency operators are trained to communicate in a way that comes across as rude and uncaring if you're not used to it.

  • How Do I Find How Many Were Born in King County Each Day?
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    in this list of tables:
    http://www.doh.wa.gov/ehsphl/chs/chs-data/birth/bir_vd.htm

    there is this table:
    Table A7 - Place of Residence, Sex, and Place of Occurrence
    http://www.doh.wa.gov/ehsphl/chs/chs-data/birth/htmltables/a7.htm

    With all of our of our hospitals I think there are quite a few babies born in King County that won't be living in King County. I've never registered a baby with the government so I do not know if/when you have to tell them in which county the baby will be living.

  • Is there anything in this state that you think is UNDER-taxed?
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    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

    Sin tax on junk food.

    Also I'd be happy to pay taxes on marijuana.

  • How many plows would a city the size of Seattle be expected to have in a snowy region?
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    Denver, Colorado has a comparable population to Seattle (between 500K and 600K) and they have 68 heavy duty snow plows, with additional capacity to deploy 4x4s with plow blades.

    http://www.denversnowplan.com/resources.htm#fleet

  • Why are Emergency Alert System messages so difficult to understand?
    Spaceship_small

    Right you are, Russ...it IS 1960s radio technology.

    And many of the dispatchers who are transmitting this information,
    1) Don't know how to use it
    2) Don't have systems that have been "zeroed out" to match levels with the automated system
    3) Aren't listening to the product
    4) Aren't concerned about the message...they just have to log that they "Sent it".

    Sad, I know... but that's what you get with non-technical people programming a system that's already in place...to service the new age.

    PS: The EAS system was never intended to handle police dispatch voice nor "Amber Alerts". That's an add-on that politicians thought would be a good crowd pleaser.

  • County council districts, how do I find mine?
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  • Comment on Adam Michelson's answer…
    Wa_usa_small

    This is great info, thank you.

  • Comment on protosaurus's answer…
    Wa_usa_small

    Good to know, thank you. I've already encountered the bar issue. I'll bring my passport if somebody twists my arm and 'forces' me to go out for a beer ;)

  • Comment on infernactual's answer…
    Wa_usa_small

    Good to know, thank you

  • Comment on Russ Campbell, NWEBS's answer…
    Bierce1_small

    I've been calling SPD about a burglary multiple times over the last month, and they state in the initial recording that non-emergency calls will go to 911 operators after the queue is empty. I don't remember the exact wording, but it's plainly there.

    Those 911 operators were happy to answer my questions and didn't give me any hassle at all, so I'm not sure what happened here.

  • Comment on asteria's answer…
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    I respect the fact the guy was doing his job but he was an asshole about it and he kept "informing" me that harassing 911 was a crime. I tend to go from zero to asshole pretty quickly so it happened.

    But yeah, I called the non-emergency number, had to go through 2 phone menu options, and then got "911 what is your emergency?"

    Different expectations was the root of the problem. Thanks for your insight.

  • Comment on asteria's answer…
    Spaceship_small

    Agreed. If you got through to 911, don't lie, but tell them it is an emergency. Tell them there was a body laying in the roadway. Then it's up to them. Don't get in an arguement, just tell them whatever you have to so they will dispatch someone to the area.

    Years ago, we witnessed a motorcycle go around a curve in a university street that had JUST been painted with glassbeads in the centerline. He laid the bike down, but didn't appear to be seriously hurt. No question he had a case against the university and the street crew.
    We called the emergency police number and told them what we had seen. They asked if the cycle was leaking gas or on fire. I said no. They said they'd get to us. After 15 minutes of waiting with no response, I called again. This time I told them there was gas leaking (we did smell gas fumes) and immediately heard sirens start in our direction. A fire truck and an ambulance arrived within 2 minutes from the station 2 blocks away.

    Sometimes you just have to play their game.

  • Comment on internet_jen's answer…
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    Wow, perfect great.

    I am looking at the birth and death data from that site.

    For 2010, King County there are 12,906 deaths or 35 per day.

    But in that sample from the PI there are 69 deaths in a single day.

  • Comment on Russ Campbell, NWEBS's answer…
    Bierce1_small

    I don't "take advantage", but I'm certainly not crying any tears for Best Buy, Wal-Mart, and the other big-box shops.

    I definitely don't do that with booksellers, though.

  • Comment on internet_jen's answer…
    Cats_small

    America is full of first world problems, one of the most costly are non-communicable diseases. Diet and personal life-style related diseases.

    If we are going to have programs like medicare/medicaid. A person who smokes every day or binges on junk food all the time should pay into the extra care they will need.

    If a dentist, doctor, sports coach or RN would tell you something is bad for you then that industry should at the very least not get any free passes. And at the most a tax to offset the public health hazard that it is.

  • Comment on Tom's answer…
    Spaceship_small

    Good thinking. However, with the adiction to smoking, I'm afraid the smokers will just deprive their family of the disposable income and continue to puff, no matter what the price. I'm not sure this would work given the adictive nature of the beast...

  • Comment on internet_jen's answer…
    Spaceship_small

    Bravo. The question initially stumped me, but you've hit the nail on the head. And as a buyer of fast food, I wince, but agree with the reasoning...

  • Comment on Russ Campbell, NWEBS's answer…
    Wa_usa_small

    This is an excellent point Russ. Kudos to you for not doing what unscrupulous online shoppers do (take advantage of local stores to view an item and then buy it online).

  • Comment on internet_jen's answer…
    Wa_usa_small

    This is a great answer, among many good ones. I like that you stood up and said YOU would pay for a higher tax on something. That was the spirit of the question, although I could have worded it more clearly. But you got it, and you win.

    What bothers me so much about the Occupy movement, and the Tea Party for that matter, is everyone is demanding that other people do something. We're going about it wrong. We need to step up and say "This is what I can offer. This is what I'm willing to do." We can't just make demands of other people. Danny Westneat had a great piece in the Seattle Times about this a while ago.

    I'm willing to pay higher taxes on my boat. You're willing to pay taxes on marijuana. That's what we have to offer.

    Enjoy the mushroom. You win this thread. You win the internet today.

  • Comment on Russ Campbell, NWEBS's answer…
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    We are all supposed to pay use tax on goods purchased out of state, but no one does it unless they are a business or it was a big ticket item like a car.

    The WA State process of collecting use tax is a printed form. Surely if they wanted people to pay they would developed an improved way to track and submit payment online by individual users (for businesses they do have something more).

    I looked into it a couple months ago, and I may still go back through my Internet purchase receipts and submit use tax.

  • Comment on O my captain's answer…
    Wa_usa_small

    Huh?

  • Comment on O my captain's answer…
    Bierce1_small

    Hah, software licenses?

  • Comment on agness's answer…
    Wa_usa_small

    Thank you agness.

    This is why I love Questionland. Denver = Seattle in population, 68/25 ratio on plows.

    I didn't know if it was 25/300 or 25/50 in a snowy city. Thank you for answering my question, and enjoy the mushroom!!

  • Comment on agness's answer…
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    Whoops, that is 2000 census data, not 2010. It should be fairly close.

  • Comment on agness's answer…
    Avatar_default

    Here is the link to 2010 Census numbers for US cities with populations over 50k, in case anyone wants to look up other cities snow removal info:

    http://www.demographia.com/db-uscity98.htm

  • Comment on O my captain's answer…
    Spaceship_small

    Too late.
    That type of Text messaging service is ALREADY here. Unfortunately, although the sign up process is free, each text message costs through your cell phone service.

    Frankly, I think those AMBER alerts are just about useless...except to stir up emotion that "we're doing something" about the problem. Most of them are internal estranged family situations, or parental custody disputes, and most of them are resolved by the police spotting the car...NOT the general public. But we all feel better that we are broadcasting this dirty laundry across thousands of outlets "to save just one young life". BS!

  • Comment on O my captain's answer…
    Qlandav2ex_small

    Now that makes complete sense. I am not outraged. Just recognizing that we always try to glom on new functions to old systems before reinventing them.

    With the ubiquitous nature of cell phones I suspect that we will someday have a system that sends (no cost) text messages to everyone within a specific geographical area to warn of weather, AMBER, and other emergencies. It would certainly reach as many or more folks than those listening to broadcast/cable radio and TV at any specific moment.

  • Comment on soundslikepuget's answer…
    Ava_small

    Thanks for the prompt response! I was expecting something several days later and past when I needed it but figured I'd throw it out there. And for once in my life this loaded quickly on my phone instead of forever ( which is great because I really didn't want to go back to the coffee shop)

  • Comment on Luckier's answer…
    Wa_usa_small

    Agreed.