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We are surrounded by spectacular beauty. This summer get something other than a sidewalk under your feet. This week we have experts on fly-fishing, hiking, climbing, biking and hosted tours: Tammy Guill from WA State Toursim; Dan Moore, owner of Evergreen Escapes; Flygirl our expert fly fisher and others.


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  • Getting into flyfishing?
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    I'd suggest getting someone other than your girlfriend to teach you how to fly fish. I witnessed my dad teaching my mom 25 years ago and thought it would break up their marriage. By the time my dad got to me, he had refined his teaching and mellowed out a bit; he only taped my wrist to the butt of the rod to make sure I didn't pick up any bad casting habits.

    You could take some lessons through Patrick's, Kauffman's or Creekside, three great fly shops in Seattle. Or just go down and talk shop with the guys some afternoon. They're always willing to share advice, point you to productive water and sell you some gear.

    Find a good guide to take both you and your gal fishing. You can benefit from the experience and assistance of a professional. Your girlfriend can fish while you get pointers. Bonus: the guide will likely put you both on fish. Guides can often outfit you for the day so you don't have lay down cash to find out if you actually like the sport.

    And to that point, you don't have to like it. This can be her thing. I've stopped taking my husband fishing. He gave it the old college try for my sake, but he simply doesn't share my passion. On the river, I spent too much time fretting whether he was having a good time. So now I leave him back at the cabin and I fish with friends or solo and come home to tell him about it.

    Fly fishing is an amazing and addictive way to spend time. Hardly anyone is good at it the first year (or three). But mastering the techniques -- reading water for fish lies, matching the hatch, effortless and accurate casting, fighting a fish -- is a thrill and an art.

  • What should we do in the Port Townsend area?
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    Pack a picnic lunch and go to Fort Worden. There's beach area to walk on, a parade ground great for flying kites, and tons and tons of old, overgrown military installations up on the bluff being slowly reclaimed by trees. It's beautiful and quiet, and the view is amazing.

    Also, food-wise, I think Elevated Ice Cream and Khu Larb Thai are pretty great.

  • How do you keep bear away / from attacking (if within sight) ?
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    First of all- the type of bear makes a huge difference, as does the type of encounter.

    If it's a black bear- DO NOT play dead. They are scavengers and will continue to come after you, even if you don't seem to pose a threat. You want to wave your arms in the air and make as much noise as possible. They will run if they think that you are a threat. They will try to eat you if they think that you are a free snack. You are more likely to encounter a black bear than a brown or grizzly.

    If it's a brown bear- your best bet is to play dead. They will fight back when provoked or threatened and generally have no interest in "dead" prey.

    All of these rules are thrown out the window if you come between a sow and a cub. You are more or less just fucked. Your best chance of survival is to roll into a ball and cover your head and neck with your arms.

    The reality of actually being able to shoot and kill a bear during a charge or attack is almost zero. And a missed or non-lethal shot may only escalate the situation.

    My father was mauled by a grizzly bear while deer hunting 12 years ago. He assumed that the bear wanted his deer, but once he was able to get away from it it continued to come after him. At the time no one knew why it mauled him or continued to come after him- later on when searching the area they found a second set of cub tracks. Mama bears don't give a shit who you are or what you're doing. My dad is an incredibly experienced outdoors-man and still wasn't able to avoid her attack.

    Bring bear spray or a gun if it makes you feel better. But the absolute best thing you can do while in bear territory is to avoid an encounter all together. Wear bells, sing songs, clap your hands. Avoid salmon spawning areas or areas that are known for high bear populations.

    If you're out hunting- take a friend, and hope that you see a bear before you startle it.

  • Sea Kayaking and Knee Pain
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    You might have some torn cartilage in your knees. I've had this, and anything with hard flexion (like kneeling or squatting) was hell on my knees. The cartilage makes a little flap that catches as you move, and makes your knee stiff and sore, way deep inside. Activities like what you describe can aggravate it nicely.

    Short term fix = ibuprofen (before and after).
    Long term fix = outpatient surgery to trim the edges, pain instantly gone with slightly increased risk of arthritis in your old age.

    It's worth mentioning to a specialist. Anyone with an active outdoor lifestyle cannot afford to be cavalier with their knees. And knees are usually the first things to complain. Unfair!

    Also, sea kayaking? I'm crazy jealous!

  • When attacked by a bear and a cougar simultaneously, does one need to stop for formal introductions?
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    You should try to use the bear and cougar to off set each other simultaneously. The combined pumped up gay creepiness of a bear and the pumped up hetero freakiness of the cougar should behave much like putting matter and anti-matter together.

    Naturally make sure you are a safe distance as the explosion could be deadly. Be safe out there!

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  • Comment on Dan Moore's answer…
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    "For grizzlies, pepper spray is required gear to carry with you. It has been proven more effective then guns."

    Really? Proven how? More effective than which guns? When used by who? I mean, I could clearly see how it would be more effective than a .22, or a high-caliber weapon in inexperienced hands, but I have a hard time believing pepper spray is more effective than a 12 gauge or a magnum wielded by a properly trained or experienced shooter.

    When I was fishing in Alaska, all the locals told me not to bother buying pepper spray, it would just piss off the bear. The advice I was given was to carry a gun, or stay next to somebody who was armed.

    Clearly, you know a lot about this though, I'd be very interested to hear your explanation.

  • Comment on soundslikepuget's answer…
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    yeah, honestly, I wouldn't waste the round firing into the air... but I felt compelled to say that so the seattle animal lover treehugger hippie crowd wouldn't come burn my house down.

    If a bear is coming at you, fire at the bear. A lot of guys carry a six-shooter magnum - the saying goes "the first five rounds are for the bear. the sixth round is for you (suicide is better than death by bear-mauling)

  • Comment on soundslikepuget's answer…
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    Considering your first sentence, I'm wondering if I should be hesitant to waste a round on firing into the air...

  • Comment on Tom's answer…
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    funnyass last line.

    New List of antibear weapons:
    Spray, gun, noisemaker, Cannon Fodder/BAIT.

  • Comment on RM's answer…
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    Awwww man. I'm blushing.

  • Comment on Fnarf's answer…
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    Muahahahahaha!

  • Comment on Fnarf's answer…
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    Oh Fnarf, you're still Da Shroom King, so don't sweat it.

  • Comment on RM's answer…
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    RM takes the cake - advice + great story.
    You so Shroomy

  • Comment on Fnarf's answer…
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    I know I can't compete with RM. So frustrating!

  • Comment on Sacrelicious's answer…
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    Uh. Wow. Thx / great stories. thumbs up!

    (grizzley fawking adams, this one)

  • Comment on Fnarf's answer…
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    fawking funny, but RM's answer is full of win. thumbs up!

  • Comment on Dan Moore's answer…
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    I've done both of those in the past month. Beautiful views. Just get to the trail early if you're going on the weekend as they are quite popular.

    The only downside I found is groups of teenage girls babbling loudly the whole time. Sigh.

  • Comment on RM's answer…
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    Yeah, we had a mule that was notorious for chasing bears. She was really skittish about everything else, but not bears.

  • Comment on flygirl's answer…
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    I wish I could give a thumbs up just to the felicitous misspelling "undamned" for "undammed". It's beautiful, and appropriate.

  • Comment on RM's answer…
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    We had black bears in our yard(s) all the time while growing up- and while they make you a bit nervous they were always fairly easy to scare off. It wasn't a big deal to step outside the house and holler at them. Often times our dogs just chased them off before they became an issue.

    Growing up our family had (still has) a cabin on Admiralty Island in SE Alaska which is known for extremely dense brown bear populations (this is where my dad was mauled). Due to always having guns/dogs/loud kids/etc. with us we rarely saw more than tracks or scat, but I do remember a young grizzly hanging out close to the cabin at one point which was a really big deal. They are big and scary as hell!

  • Comment on flygirl's answer…
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    LOL!! I'm from Livingston!

  • Comment on RM's answer…
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    Yeah, I have no problem with black bears, but encountering a griz would scare me to death. I would be happy to never encounter one in the wild. Tell your Dad a complete stranger thinks he's awesome!

  • Comment on Tom's answer…
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    Priceless...

  • Comment on Mr_Christian's answer…
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    Great recommendations here from Mr Christian. The Teanaway's pretty magical in all seasons with hiking options galore. I can also attest to the Mt. Dickerman hike, which is great (albeit strenuous), rewarding one with fantastic views of peaks in this area of the Mtn Loop Highway.

  • Comment on DosWheeler's answer…
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    DAMN!! I was hoping it was just egotistical hype on the part of the locals. Oh well....

  • Comment on Rev.Enant's answer…
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    I'm serious though: http://www.wta.org/go-hiking/hikes/hoh-river
    I love this patch of forest. it's a completely foreign land in contrast to the other forests of the area. I firmly believe the old growth here is the best in the state.
    Pluses: Elk herd! Minimal elevation gain! I'm a sucker for good cedar trees, and the ones at Cougar Creek = FTW.

  • Comment on Mr_Christian's answer…
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    Mt. Pilchuck trailhead off the Mountain Loop Highway past Granite Falls is also about an hour's drive and offers great views a little further north.

    And when you hiking up Mt. Townsend, stop at Mora Ice Cream on Bainbridge for a post-hike treat before catching the ferry back.

  • Comment on Sacrelicious's answer…
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    Fort Worden is my favorite! So pretty/creepy. Also, on a hot day, some of the bunkers are refreshingly cool. Don't forget to bring a flashlight - it can get pretty dark in there, even during the day.