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  • What is the minimum size for a stage for a single musician?
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    I'm a cellist amongst other things. In my experience, a 4x6 low platform would be on the small side of reasonable for an acoustic performance (no mics, speakers, amps, etc.) of a solo musician. 5x5 would be even better.

    Is this space supposed to host the musician and all his/her kit (cases, coats, etc.)? If so, make it as big as you can. Also, make a ramp to get on the stage. Some instruments are heavy and valuable and negotiating high steps is tricky. Is your venue rather dark? Put your stage near an outlet so your musician can have a small light.

  • Songs about getting/being old?
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    Touch of Gray--Grateful Dead
    Old Friends--Simon and Garfunkel
    When I'm Sixty-Four--Beatles
    While You See A Chance--Steve Winwood
    Glory Days--Bruce Springsteen
    Cherry Bomb--John Mellencamp
    Changes In Latitudes, Changes In Attitudes--Jimmy Buffett
    We May Never Pass This Way Again--Seals & Crofts
    Against The Wind--Bob Seger
    Life'll Kill Ya--Warren Zevon
    Knockin' on Heaven's Door--take your pick, who hasn't covered this one?
    Old and In The Way--Old And In The Way
    I've Got A Thing About Seeing My Grandson Grow Old--Cat Stevens
    End Of The Line--Travelling Wilburys

    It's not hard to tell from this list that it's been quite a while since I saw 30. Maybe that's the reason that a lot what came to my mind aren't songs so much indulging the self-pitying melodrama, as you put it, as taking a more philosophical look at the good and the bad sides of getting older. But hey, maybe you'll decide to include a few from that point of view, too.

  • What are the best latter-career albums (1990's-present) by great '80's bands/artists?
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    Not too many Americans are familiar with Gary Numan, but he has an impressive track record. His current sound is much more industrial/gothic than his 80s stuff. I would recommed "Pure" and "Jagged".

  • ZooTunes virgin - how can I best enjoy the experience?
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    Well, it's a giant field full of people picknicking and many do bring kids (as youngsters get free admission, I think). So they will be around. But that being said, it's still a venue that I really enjoy and I think you will, too. It's a chance to sit in a lovely field.

    If being up close is important to you, getting there the earlier the better is helpful. Yes, members get early admittance, but there is still lots of room after they're seated. As with all field concert seating (The Gorge, Bumbershoot, etc) you can generally weave your way through the crowds and find a space to sit between already seated folks, ya know? Especially as you are just a solo person, this should be easier. While I don't think bringing a chair is necessary, I think you will be MUCH more comfortable if you bring a blanket to sit upon, and maybe a pillow to help cushion your seat...as you really are just sitting on the ground. Also, bringing a blanket will help you CLAIM YOUR SPACE. Others will respect the boundaries of your blanket, but if it's just you sitting on the ground, other groups may end up squeezing right up next to you. So stake your claim with some fabric. *smile* AND, your later seating should allow you to better scope out potential neighbors.

    While there tend to be lots of children around, I've found that everyone is generally respectful and quiets their conversations once the acts begin (not always true for the opening act, but for the main performer, people tend to quiet down). We've asked, politely, once or twice, for our neighbors to curtail their chatting, and they've always complied.

    We tend to sit towards the back, and in my observations, it's seemed that families with kids tend to sit towards the front and the sides (that way folks send their kids to run around on the edges of the crowd)...so maybe the front-center will give you a better seat with less likelihood of frolicking nearby. Honestly, the field isn't that large, so even sitting towards the back you're not too far from the stage.

    I respect that you're not really interested in the picnic/drinking scene, but I'd encourage you to at least pack some snacks, if not your dinner. Sometimes other people eating bothers me (MOUTH NOISES!!) but if I'm chewing on my own food, it doesn't irk me so much. So maybe some trail mix or something? *shrug*

    I think you'll have fun. Lucinda should be great (I'm going too!!). It's a pretty casual venue, and it's family friendly. The volume levels are not AS high as other concerts, because zoo staff are trying to strike a balance between the concerts and animal discomfort.

    Also, IF you are interested in chatting with strangers, it's the type of event where people often will talk to their blanket-neighbors. But it's also Seattle, so folks should totally leave you alone, if you prefer.

    Good luck! There will be some vendor booths around the field with free samples, information, and then some food options, too, if you'd like to purchase something (your blanket also helps here, to save your spot while you can wander around). And, worst case, if you end up with crappy concert neighbors, you can generally move without too much trouble (once we were next to some 40-somethings HEAVILY drinking the wine and talking loudly who were crazy rude, so we just picked up our blanket and found a new place to sit).

  • Which wu-tang song is THE BEST??
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    The ones on the GZA's solo albums.

  • A night of dancing you can sing along to?
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    For 80's, Neighbours on Thursdays for their 80's (with a bit of 90's thrown in) Rock Lobster night is the place to be. Longest running 80's night in the US apparently, been going solidly for about 15 years...

    Also worth checking out are the various 80's nights at Noc Noc downtown (Lesser-known 80s on Tues, industrial on fri, more commercial on Sat).

  • Are there any NON-meatmarket R&B club nights in Seattle?
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    If you are into classic soul & funk, i would go to talcum at chop suey (last saturdays, i think). If you are okay with being off the hill, lo-fi has great dance nights without out the meat-market vibe. Dug (first fridays) and Emerald City Soul Club (second saturdays) are both excellent for music and dancing.

  • Do you want two free tickets to the Godspeed You Black Emperor show tonight?
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    I would love to go if you haven't given them to anyone else already.

    Have you seen this video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=715pE23NIm8

  • What are some unheralded but terrific folk songs?
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    I'm partial to Colum Sands. He's Irish, and he's from this huge family of musicians, all of whom write folk music. Highlights of Colum's include "The Night is Young", "Going Down to the Well with Maggie" and "The Note That Lingers On". Most of his stuff is traveling music - it's quaint and lovely.

    And I don't know if this qualifies as a folk song or not, but the Left Banke's "Sing Little Bird Sing" is a gorgeous folks-y lullaby of a song. It's been around forever. Give that one a shot.

  • Seattle Opera: how easy is it to buy a student ticket for a non-student?
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    9 years ago they were sticklers about checking student ID. Haven't been a student since, so unsure of the current climate. Their promotional fliers make mention of $25 tickets (no student ID required). I'm guessing they're in the top side, but honestly, the upper balcony has gorgeous acoustics, so don't let that deter you. If you call the box office, you could ask about the $25 deal...that might be a safer way to go.

  • What's the best event calendar for classical music in Seattle?
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    I know, this is heresy, but try the Seattle Weekly: http://www.seattleweekly.com/events/concerts/

    A quick look at their music listings includes a concert by Joseph Adam (the organist at St. James Cathedral), several pianists, etc. I mean, they even list the Metropolitan Opera's local auditions (which you can go watch).

    I just wish that The Stranger, which strives to be the definitive arts newspaper in Seattle, would put some of their budget towards covering this stuff, too.

  • What Christmas song makes you want to stab yourself in the ear to make it stop?
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    Barbra Streisand's version of "Jingle Bells". The horrible jingle scat at the beginning is right up there with a dental drill on the Scale of Unpleasantness.

  • Is The Black Lodge actually at the commonly listed address on Eastlake?
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    Yes. It's right in between the Lo-Fi Performance Gallery and The Victory Lounge (They're all in the same building [at the corner of Eastlake and Republican]).

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  • Comment on Paul Pearson's answer…
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    Yes! I have been looking for "The Piano Has Been Drinking", but cant find it either!!! I used to sing this Karaoke.......

  • Comment on Griffin's answer…
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    One thing to consider - ply wood come in 4 x 8 sheets usually. Trying to track down a width of 5 feet will be hard and cost you about double the price for that extra foot. It will be safer unless there is a support directly under the seam to do something that retains the full width of the wood (probably why you were told 4x6). If you go 5x5 make sure you have something under the seam ( at that point it may be better to do a 3x5 and a 2x5 or two 2.5 x 5 so you dont have just a foot in to the stage where the under support is. Also you may want to use beefier wood in the under structure (2x6's instead of 2x4's) that way you have the height of the 6 on its side instead of several layers of 2x 4's

  • Comment on Griffin's answer…
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    I would still go for a small ramp. Just in case someone decides you need to roll a piano on your stage-let at some point, or other heavy gig bag, and also to make it accessible.

    Thanks for the shroom and happy building.

  • Comment on Griffin's answer…
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    This is great to know, I will go with 5x5. Thank you.

    No, this space is not intended to host the musician's "kit" we have virtually unlimited space for storing cases, coats, etc "behind the scenes."

    The venue seems brightly lit to me, but it will be right next to an outlet so I can put a lamp there if it's needed. Thanks for that tip.

    Regarding the ramp, I am anticipating that this stage will be 12-18 inches high. Would a ramp still be recommended in that case?

    Thank you so much for this helpful information, and enjoy the 'shroom!

  • Comment on sublevelthree's answer…
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    No prob. Setting yourself aside is always good, and you wanna make it as easy as possible for people to review you ( that's why you want your discorgapy and any other reviews in there) it gives them background info so they dont have to get ahold of you if they're busy. If you don't have any reviews write up an artist statement of sorts - include what you're trying to do, influences, process ( if it's applicable, more for out-there stuff or people who are really monkeying with the sound. May not be nessicary if you're a straight up rock band but if you layer hundreds of found sound recordings probably something to hit on). Also a bio is good ( especially if it's a new band but members were in recognizable projects)

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    Thank You so much. You are a kind person for putting in so much energy and words into your response. Love Pizza T

  • Comment on e.strange's answer…
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    Totally! The Triple Door and Showbox are good as well.

    Avoid Hard Rock, blecch.

  • Comment on Tracy M's answer…
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    Oh, and here's a new service. It's also NOT FREE, but kinda cool. Basically, they'll drive you home IN YOUR CAR, and then another employee will pick up the driver at your place. http://www.seattlepi.com/local/transportation/article/Need-a-designated-driver-CarGozz-takes-you-and-2433708.php

  • Comment on marymc's answer…
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    You just can't go wrong with Warren!

  • Comment on marymc's answer…
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    Those are mostly more optimistic than I'm going for, but the Warren Zevon suggestion led me to My Shit's Fucked Up, which is perfect!

  • Comment on Fnarf's answer…
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    See, now you're giving me upvotes after it's been established I'm wrong. Funny old world.

  • Comment on Fnarf's answer…
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    There - just gave you a couple of upvotes because I can.

  • Comment on Fnarf's answer…
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    It wasn't Sassy. 'Twas sassier than Sassy. And it might have only had a couple of issues. It was more in the 'zine spirit of Rollerderby, Ben Is Dead, etc. but was totally a 4-color magazine release. Part of me says that one of the covers was a guy from "Girls Against Boys." Another part of me says to shut the fuck up and keep drinking.

  • Comment on Fnarf's answer…
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    Hmm, I was a Sassy subscriber, and it was pretty different from Tiger Beat, but Kevin might not know that.

    They definitely had some Evan Dando beefcake pictures...

  • Comment on Fnarf's answer…
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    Good to see I've got a random downvoter stalking me even when I'm right, though.

  • Comment on Fnarf's answer…
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    Fnarf is right. Early 90s mag. The "cute band alert" was one of their regular features.

  • Comment on TheKelvis's answer…
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    Priceless response!!!

  • Comment on sanguisuga's answer…
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    Thank ye kindly! I loooove Numan - hence the profile photo. I guess I should have said that many might be familiar with his early stuff, but unaware that the man just hasn't ever stopped producing great music. Except maybe for "Machine & Soul"... *shudder*

  • Comment on sanguisuga's answer…
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    I'd say that many are, but haven't followed him much past Cars and songs that're oft-covered, like Down in the Park, Metal, etc. :p

    Good choice, though! Numan's awesome.

  • Comment on Kip Waddle's answer…
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    Oh, wait. It looks like the EMP Level 3 stage might be the replacement for the Northwest Court, at least going by the lineup there. It still sucks that it won't be next to the art exhibit anymore.

  • Comment on Kip Waddle's answer…
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    I was hoping they would replace that stage. This REALLY sucks! I was one of the old timers hanging out there.

  • Comment on Kip Waddle's answer…
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    I guess many of the big name acts appeal to the older set; Bob Dylan last year and Hall and Oates this year. But Bumbershoot used to have a ton of world music which they nixed a few years ago. Now, they'll get maybe one or two world performers if you're lucky.

    I also just noticed yesterday that they shitcanned the Northwest Court stage this year, which usually featured jazz musicians and other light fare, had a decent amount of chair seating, and featured a wine garden (vs. the usual beer). That was where you could find anyone over 40 at Bumbershoot, and now it's gone, never to return I'm sure.

  • Comment on Tracy M's answer…
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    The best tip for preventing being overwhelmed is to be flexible. It really is a great event for just wandering around. Try to find a few events that appeal and create a loose schedule to follow. But give yourself permission to deviate from this schedule. Also, you can generally wander past one of the stages and listen for a few minutes. If you like what you hear, sit down or lean against a tree, etc. If not, move along and try something else. There's great music around, and lots of other arts things (films, improv, theatre, stand-up, visual arts).

    Oh yeah, bring COMFORTABLE WALKING SHOES. And maybe a backpack, if she's looking to pack dinner/snacks, her water, sunscreen, etc.

    There will also be several vendors giving out free stuff (yay!) and others selling items. The Toyota booth generally has some crafts (two years ago you got to color and make shrinky/dink pendants or keychains), so that can be silly/fun, too.

  • Comment on Kip Waddle's answer…
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    Hall and Oates is for the 18-30 set? Most of this years line up is a big questionmark to me it seems really disjointed and really NOT appealing to that demographic

  • Comment on Tracy M's answer…
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    Wow, Tracy M - thank you so much for this detailed and super-helpful answer! We were out of town so sorry I'm late in replying. I'll look into the SOund Transit option, would be great if that could work. They also have some kind of parking that can be purchased in advance, which might work out nicely. Welcome any other thoughts on the logistics, thnx!

  • Comment on littlemisspantybottom's answer…
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  • Comment on Tracy M's answer…
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    Hooray for mushrooms!

    To the right of the stage, in front of the "zootunes merchandise" booth, is a general standing/dancing area. There's ususally 20-40 people here. So if you're looking to stand and dance and have more of a typical concert experience, that's probably your best bet. There is a bit of an aisle-way beside the VIP seats that leads to the stage, but if people start standing/dancing there early in the show, seated patrons get really grumpy...but it tends to fill up by the encore, at least.

    I was at KD Lang this week, and people did rush the stage and dance for her final two songs and then through her TWO encores. But that's the first time I've observed that. Normally the main group of folks doesn't stand until the encore...but the standing/dancing folks to the side by merch table do look to be having fun. Good luck at Go-Go's. (Being such a different energy band, there may be more dancing in general).

    I've never heard of anyone moving between different blankets before...how annoying. (At KD Lang there was a quite rude and inebriated and loud group in front of us, who really refused to quiet down despite several folks' requests. I was with some pals who have a newborn so they were not interested in relocating (too many bags/stuff to move). It made me a bit grumpy. But towards the end of hte evening when one of them fell into their picnic spread, I did take some small glee in that moment. :P

  • Comment on Tracy M's answer…
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    A belated thanks for your answer. The Lucinda Williams show was pretty decent.

    Some general observations:

    - I ended up not trying to get there that early, even knowing that it would affect my seating choices. I was at a Mariners game earlier in the day and stayed for the whole thing, opting to relax at that game instead of stressing out about getting a decent show seat.
    - The signage for people arriving via bike could be better. It took me a little bit to locate the newer covered bike parking area.
    - I parked my bike and then walked all of about 10 feet to the end of the line (this was at about 4pm I think). I don't know if that length of line at that hour is average or not.
    - It's a complete land grab in there. Thankfully, since it was just me I was able to grab a thin section between two blankets (a little to the left of the "VIP" seating area).
    - Directly in front of me was a guy who had his seat on a 8'x10' blanket. He was the only one on the blanket for the duration of the show.
    - To my left were two big blankets and a kid napping/covering them. Eventually, once the show started, two moms and an endless supply of kids showed up in their area. Not too annoying, but having to hear things like "Harper, stop pulling down your pants!" while listening to a song about a suicide was not ideal.
    - To my right was a group that had a second home, er a second blanket, up towards the front. They would take turns a few at a time going up to that closer space. Kinda ridiculous.
    - Two in front of me was a guy with a snazzy chair (that had to have been over 24"), a portable end table, a kindle, some big smartphone, some nice camera (often kept in a waist case), his special drinking containers, big blanket, etc. For parts of the show he just read his kindle while Lucinda sang some amazing songs. Thankfully he wasn't blocking my view or else I probably would have been annoyed.
    - Lots of people seemed to be there just for the picnic atmosphere and didn't seem all that interested in the music. I'm not against that, but in my ideal world they would sit more towards the back.
    - It was nice that people were finally standing for the last three or so song. That allowed me to get a lot closer and it felt more like a regular show at that point.
    - I'm still curious how the Go-Gos show will go. Lucinda Williams' music is more laid back and sitting back in a chair soaking in the music makes some sense. If that exact thing happens during the Go-Gos I might go crazy. Should I expect a bunch of people to stand up towards the front? Ideally I'd like to be up there too. Or will I once again be sitting behind hundreds of bloated season pass type people who chat through most of the show?

  • Comment on mister_fusspot's answer…
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    Good idea! You can rarely go wrong with the Comet, you only need to walk outside to hear the rockin' and see the crowd active.

  • Comment on freikja's answer…
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    Oh, and almost anything by Peaches would work.